[quote=@HenryJonesJr] 1) This looks like complete and utter crap. The trailer gives you your daily dose of cringe many times over. 2) HOT TAKE ALERT: Venom is a shit character in general and my least favorite major Spider-Man villain. He was mildly interesting in his debut arc, and outside of that has been nothing but garbage outside of Agent Venom [/quote] Venom was very much a product of the 90s, and the further away we get from that era, the worse he's aged. Like Gambit or Doomsday, or basically the entire original lineup of Image Comics. That said, I liked his debut arc, his first arc in the Ultimate comics, bits of Lethal Protector, and I actually quite like Donny Cates' current run as it's one of the only things Marvel puts out at the moment that feels like an actual comic book. But yeah, four things I liked in about 30 years worth of material isn't a particularly strong portfolio, especially outside of the comics. They regularly fast-forward through the Black Suit Saga (IMO one of the most potentially interesting parts of Pete's mythology) in order to get to the character, and when they do he regularly disappoints. He was okay-ish in The Animated Series, but far from the best villain in the show for how much emphasis they put on him. And the Venom episodes of Spectacular Spider-Man were far and away the weakest in the series. And the less said about his outing in Spider-Man 3, the better. As a rule of thumb I don't believe there's such a thing as a wholly bad character, as the right creative team with the right idea can turn even the lamest concept into something cool. But there are definitely characters that are harder than others to do well, and Venom is pretty high on that list.