[@Bishop] I roll for Numenor first because he is the instigator of the action, and for Orky second because he is the responder to the action. True, it was a bit unclear but I'll make sure it is next time. Keep in mind you failed, but not so spectacularly so as to be noticed by everybody. Only Orky and Numenor should be aware of the action going on between them. The rest, unless staring directly at them, shouldn't have noticed.