[quote=omega] If it js not trained you can make a toughness check at -40. Which makes me wonder what it is since that is a pretty tough check. [/quote] Why would I make a toughness check? Medicae is a trained-only Intelligence skill. If I am not trained in it, I simply cannot attempt the check at all. I don't understand where Toughness would come into play. Edit: Disregard. #4. Skill Test: Medicae (only roll if you are trained) <---- Found my answer, right there. Next time I will read just a little bit ahead before I ask a question that has already been answered. SMH. lol