Glum's defensive spell is still up, since it hasn't been mentioned going away yet. Bardic charm is different from regular charm. It's a sort of magic manipulation, where you can sway the unaware towards a prefered result. of course, if the person being charmed is aware that something is wrong, or they're being influenced, the charm loses all effect. Think of it as subtle misdirection. If you don't notice it, it works, if you do notice, it's useless. [b]EDIT:[/b] Hawklen does like his ladies...