[quote=@Mae] [@Dark Cloud] grovelling pitifully can certainly be a defense. You could use it as Defense vs Wounds. Just before the killing blow, you look pitiful and it causes them to hesitate or miss. Or you could use it as Defense vs caught lying, or Defense vs failing to convince someone. You can only pick one though, when would Zaz'ak use it most? [/quote] I'll think a little bit more.