[quote=mdk]
Pretty unanimously selfish. I know, you're going to get a lot of 'It depends on the situation' replies... fact is, someone who cares about you has to find your dead body and mop your death-poop off the floor, and yes, they'll remember you from now on -- but that's how. As a poop-covered body with a bloated face. They have to live with that from now on, all because you wanted to climb up on the cross.
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I can't really consider a depression victim who commits suicide to be selfish. They are not in their "normal" state of mind. Also, I find any case of suicide to be a tragic thing. For both the person who committed suicide, and those affected by the event. 

It's also pretty unanimously selfish to only look about how you would feel if someone close to you would commit suicide. Everyone needs to just put on their empathy shoes.

[quote=Protagonist]
As a Christian, I believe that people created for a purpose. By killing yourself, you're usually preventing yourself from fulfilling said purpose, and that's just no good.
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Brovo noted what I feel towards this. I don't believe religious antagonisms towards suicide are helpful.

[quote=Magic Magnum]
This is a big and complex topic, so I'd like to get the most simple/obvious parts out of the way first before I delve into the rest of it.First, let's look at one extreme where I think we'd all be in some agreement, suicide bomber's/terrorists. They are ending their own life basically for the sole purpose of causing harm on others cause their God/Beliefs say so. This is can very easily be called selfish and left at that, but even this is not that simple since they had to be raised to have such hate/beliefs to begin with. So is that truly selfishness or a sad story of a promising individual who was convinced to end their life because of how they were raised? [/quote]

Pretty much agree here. It's easy to jump to conclusions. There's also a consideration to take into suicide bombings when a lot of them are also done because they believe foreign countries like the United States are enforcing a modern/not so modern form of imperialism into their countries. Regardless, I find any suicide bombing to be tragic on both sides. 

I'd ask people to not confuse my points with sweeping generalizations. I am angered by suicide bombings, murder, etc. but I am also saddened by them from both sides of the perspective. If I only looked at things from a point of view of contempt I would be missing all other perspectives. And when we miss other perspectives, that is how the cycle of attack, retaliation, and attack is endlessly continued. 

[quote=Magic Magnum]
Now for the Suicide topic which this topic seems to actually be referencing, suicide as a result of Depression.I'll go at this from the assumption the person actually has depression, and isn't someone who simply self-diagnosed and is using it as an excuse for everything they do in life.-Side Note: Seriously, if you're self-diagnosing and using it as an excuse for how you treat others just stop. Now. I've been at the receiving end of that before, all you do is hurt those who care for you and make things worse for those who actually struggle with Depression.[/quote] 

Self-diagnosing is a hazy issue, a person could have depression or not. I don't know the full details of your experience, but even if a person self-diagnoses and that diagnosis is not official, you seem to look at it as though it has less validity. The person very well could have had depression. Remember, the things a depressed person says may not make sense to you and they can even hurt. Super complex thing here, treat it with extreme sensitivity! Again, this isn't something I know much about (your experience, that is). 

[quote=Magic Magnum]
Mental illness as wound -snip-[/quote]

I don't really have much to add here. This is backed by many studies and psychological health organizations. It's really inarguable. 

[quote=Magic Magnum]Treat and respect them the same way you would someone who had another kind of illness that was killing them or at the very least making their life much harder to go through.
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Exactly.

Lord almighty you always have a ton of things to respond to, lol. I appreciate the shout out.