[quote=Overwatch] Yeah, sure, leave me a scathing reply, telling me how wrong I am. My opinion Ain't changing. [/quote] I know your opinion won't change. This won't necessarily be a scathing reply as much as it will be looking at your post, point by point. [quote=Overwatch] Suicide is the fools way out. It irritated me that anybody could be so weak-willed and dumb that they would expend effort trying to kill themselves, rather than seek another solution. [/quote] How? Who defines what is a fools way out or not. You don't seem to be a person has suffered from the mental illness that is depression. Depression is the leading cause for suicides, and these people are not weak-willed. It has nothing to do with individual will. It's an illness of which the victim has no choice in having or not having. A lot of the times, depression just happens. I don't know how you find these people to be "dumb" either. This is an opinion of which there is no evidentiary support for, therefore it has no validity. There are people who have depression, and think of suicide, and have had searched for other solutions. There have been many cases of successful treatment, and of people who have at least made improvements to their lives. However, this progress is slow because of viewpoints of depression being a choice. Viewpoints like your own. And these opinions, I have to say are not backed by the sciences of psychology. What is supported is that depression is a mental illness that makes people very irrational, this is really inarguable. You can try to argue against it, but it's like saying you choose not to believe that smoking is bad for you. [quote=Overwatch] Such a fool deserves the death they seek. Self-harm isn't the way to go. And you'll get no sympathy from me, or remorse for thinking less of you for doing it. Suicide is bullshit. That's all. It isn't "tragic", it IS selfish, and it certainly makes me want to overkill their goddamned corpse for doing something so god-damned blindly.[/quote] I have to wonder why you are so hostile and hateful towards those who commit suicide. They can't talk back to you or defend themselves. If you don't want to show sympathy or empathy then fine. That's your choice. However, your opinion only exacerbates the situation. You are part of the problem, whether you like it or not. Depression victims, and those thinking of suicide need sympathy and empathy to move past their problems into the next steps of recovery. They don't need to be shunned or called selfish. It's selfish of you to shun them based on your ignorant opinions that stand on no evidence whatsoever. Suicide is tragic. That's what it is. Someone lost the hard fight, and their are people around them will suffer from pain because of it as well. I also find the opinion of people deserving death to be an odd one. There's a lot of hate in having that perspective. [quote=Overwatch]You have one life, and nothing afterwords, asshole. Make the most of it. I don't care if you are crippled from the waist down, or a slave for life, fight on! Make a change! March forward! Sadness never helped anybody, and killing yourself doesn't right whatever made you feel so wronged. If anything, all you did was choose the cowards way out, and hurt anyone who ever cared about you. Your death is not admirable, nor honorable.[/quote] No one said suicide is honorable, or admirable. Nor is it cowardly. You're also making the classic mistake of classifying sadness alongside with depression. Sadness is not depression! Depression is a mental illness, NOT a choice. This is not arguable, THIS IS A FACT. [quote=Overwatch]You deserve no tears shed over your shitty ass carcass once you off yourself. See, I hate myself, loathe myself, I seethe with sadness and rage when I see others as happy as I cannot be. Of course, I cannot fix other's perceptions of me, and voicing my feelings is rude, and selfish, so, I'll dwell on it, slay the beast myself, and move on, no matter how many times I face it. [/quote] I think everyone can relate to hating themselves at times, and feeling sadness and rage. Also, dwelling on it isn't a very useful thing for someone actually suffering from depression. Depression and the negative connotations to it in our society already make it hard enough for people to vocalize that they have a problem. Dwelling on it normally leads to it getting worse, and getting worse leads to suicide. [quote=Overwatch]Praise the fucking sun, assholes, praise music, and light, warmth, and friends. When I think of that, I kick to the curb what had me down, and move on. I've had a pretty shitty hand of cards thrown at me, but it can always be worse or better. I'd rather see it through the better half than suffer death. And when I have my funeral, I'll have a party. Don't be sad we parted, be happy that you knew me well enough to feel sorrow at my absence. Happy that I'd be happy knowing you actually cared. I won't forsake your kindness by choosing the path of the foolish coward.[/quote] I had two friends suffer from depression. One almost committed suicide. One of my brothers' best friends who I also knew really well ended up committing suicide. You can say all you want, but it doesn't change that your opinions are highly offensive. I defend with my life your right to say them, but they still offend me, and baffle me because of the lack of evidence behind them.