[quote=@rush99999] [@Guardian Angel Haruki] I just remembered that the help action exists. Would you allow me to apply that retroactively? If so, if Brutrumukk were to use his familiarity with animals to keep the fish calm and still during the search, would that be enough help to negate the disadvantage and give Jub that 24? [/quote] I'm going to have to say No on this. 1) Brutrumukk is frightened of this thing. So, he can't really approach the fish to calm it down. It's especially harder to calm something else down, if he himself is not calm at all. All he can do is toss the bits of the Duskmallow pie from afar. 2) Jub is using Mage Hand to fish through the intestines, so apart from your suggestion, there really isn't much else Brutrumukk can do to help the Mage Hand find the herbs.