[quote=@Remram]
I mean, I'm asking because that's what he's gonna try to do. Figured that's what he would do and suffer the consequences before he rips him a new one. Would it be easier to collab this or is that unnecessary?
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As far as a collab goes either way would be fine with me, it just depends on what kind of back-and-forth you'd want it to be. Ludo has a lot of options he can attempt, and like I said before I'm okay with players taking a few liberties here or there as long as its narratively interesting--just as long as any named/clearly "important" NPC isn't getting outright puppeteer'd, auto-bodied, etc.