[quote=@Srpv] And yes Italy is european but gladiators was a roman thing. With the Papacy giving Francia 'to call' themselves the Holy Roman Empire was hoping theyd be savage and try and conquer europe as the next empire, that didnt occur. [/quote] Rome was Italy and the Holy Roman Empire was what would become Germany and much of central Europe. Both are European. Gladiators did not exist within the Holy Roman Empire.