[quote=@Etcetera] One of those self-interested types you referred to earlier, I would estimate? I'm limited in how much I can do for you. But it also depends on what exactly you're asking of me. [/quote] [color=00aeef][b][i]*I snap my fingers as a proverbial lightbulb turns on above my head*[/i][/b][/color] Well placed fair Grace! So then, it is true about the objective morality of heaven, and that delusional self-interested types actually endanger worlds anywhere they go, and risk disturbing their already frail balance?