[quote=Apollo26] Lol yep, they are small. Don't let them fool you though, they pack a punch. HE and nuclear missiles, HE and HEDP torpedoes, mines and a kick ass stealth systems make it pretty deadly. I doubt any captain will offensively use a blackhole class ship though just not enough weapons to take on more then one vessel. [/quote] so do the Frigates =3 and apparently nukes aren't all that their made out to be =3 from watching discovery channel, if an alien vessel is able to cross the stars, they'd be able to handle impacts that put out much more energy then nukes ever could, like, giant space rocks almost half the size of a planet =3 but hey, we don't need reality, this is science fiction X3 also, from what science say's, apparently nukes wouldn't do anything in space, no atmosphere for the heat or shockwaves =/ but what do I know, I'm just a goof X3