[quote=Jorick]Turt's nonsense and those responding to him are getting off topic though, so everyone should probably do the smart thing and not bother responding to any more of his shit stirring here in the thread.
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I resent that, I want to have a serious conversation about the pseudo-intellectualism of Off-Topic.

e: And the need for antagonists who actually make you question WHY you're doing something.