[quote=Brovo] ... Dude, that's a pretty sexist statement right there. You nailed it. Gold star. Well done. Thanks for pointing out that it's a grey issue, not black and white. Wish more people held that opinion.I always found it equally amusing when a woman demands to be considered attractive for what she is--fat, or otherwise--then usually turns around and applies an unrealistic set of standards upon men to qualify for dating. Then wonders why they're forever alone with three cats.To clarify: Sexual standards does not always equate to sexism. A guy may find big breasted women in chainmail bikinis attractive and not be a sexist in the same manner that a woman may not want to date a guy who is short or obese. Or a bigot. This is just how humans work.If anything I'd say it's not so much a hatred of women in your example as it is a case of Peter Pan syndrome--not being able to grow up past their fantasies and escapisms and attacking anything that might threaten that, female, authority figure, or otherwise. They also tend to be the same kind of rabid fans you might find obsessing over sports, or fashion, or god knows what other thing we can obsess over in groups. You always have zealous extremists who attack anything that might threaten the image. That's more of a problem with extremism than it is specifically sexism, sexism in this case is just the byproduct of a flawed design. [/quote] That applies to both genders, me thinks. I've seen my fair share of repulsive men with such bad hygene that a sewer mutant would find them repugnant who want a girlfriend so badly, but their standards are so insanely high bar that it's impossible to achieve. When Jabba the Hutt wants a Swedish bikini model and won't settle for anything less, you're looking at a man who is single handedly keeping the tissue paper industry afloat with maxed out credit cards for a list of smutty websites with about six innuendos in the title and about 15 x's. Of course, the girls you mention are their own unique brand of awful, and I guarentee they have quoted that dumb fucking Merylin Monroe quote about if you can't handle her at her worst, you don't deserve her at her best like it's some kind of excuse for justifying shitty behaviour and standards. If I had a shot every time I saw that quote on Facebook, I would haved died from liver failure years ago. And sure, everyone has sexual standards, what you're describing is no different than somebody not being sexually attracted to someone of another race. Doesn't make them racist, it just means they aren't attracted. It's also why there's fetishes people have of dragons fucking muscle cars, people wanting to be cooked alive and prepared like a meal, or fucking goats. Most people think that's goddamn weird, but somebody obviously finds it hot enough to make it known across the internet. No, what I meant was the guys who actively discriminate against girls from participating in their hobbies and go out of their way to be dickbags about it to try and drive them off, be it a lard ass Cheeto breathing DM in a Dungeons & Dragons group who actively screws over a girl's character to a 13 year old Mountain Dew Butt Chugger who tells a girl on Call of Duty to get back in the kitchen to get him more Doritos because mom refuses to buy more until grocery day while insisting the girl isn't a real gamer and so on. It goes beyond a meek awkwardness where they feel something sacred is being defiled by the presence of vagina like a D20 filled El Dorodo being ransaked by bombshell Cortez and her Sexy Spaniards, which is still sexism, no matter how you cut it. I mean, shit. The Taliban throwing acid in girls' faces for having the audacity to go to school is still sexist even if they think it's against their religion and culture to have woman have equal rights. While a mouth breathing girl bashing nerd isn't throwing acid at the chick who dared sit down at his wizard table (god, I hope not), he's still being sexist even if he's having the foundations of everything he's ever known and loved turned upside down by a maiden who rather swing a battle axe than be rescued from a tower while not dressed like a total skank. Just because he hasn't experienced this thing called women in his life and doesn't know any better doesn't mean you can justify him acting like a triple necked cocksucker towards a girl who dare show interest in his passion. It's like saying you can justify Bieber for being an insufferable little drunk driving dick because he's young and got too rich and famous too quickly, having never been told no since Usher summoned him from the depths of YouTube to terrorize the world like some kind of douchey looking Eldrich Horror.