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You are right, it is irrelevant. It is on you to prove this standard exists, where any number is too large to be interfered with. By this logic, I am screwing with his work by putting a nation to his east where one did not exist before, forcing history alterations or at least an acknowledgement. Because we border, I have just screwed with his work.
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You're taking the phrase to mean something it doesn't. It means you don't get to decide anything about his nation or race, and saying you have individuals of his race as a slave without asking him is doing so. But as I said, this argument is getting absolutely nothing done, neither of you are going to convince the other you're right so how about we just stop talking about it until Hazmat comes on and gives his ruling. Please?
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And I reiterate, he has yet to prove this standard or even give me a threshold to meet to disprove it.
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TheSovereignGrave said
You're taking the phrase to mean something it doesn't. It means you don't get to decide anything about his nation or race, and saying you have individuals of his race as a slave without asking him is doing so. But as I said, this argument is getting absolutely nothing done, neither of you are going to convince the other you're right so how about we just stop talking about it until Hazmat comes on and gives his ruling. Please?


Yeah, I'm pretty much done. Like I've said, I've sent Haz a PM stating a summary of Bored is trying to pull here, so we should have a ruling on this when Haz comes back online.

Also, I don't have to prove anything to you Bored, you are the one who has broken Rule #5: Don't be a Dick. You have done this by deliberately abusing another player's creation without their permission.
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Show me the damage done to Raptor. I took Crayven slaves too, but you don't care about that. If you truly cared about the principles you claim exist, you would have made it an issue. Instead, you just wanted to pick an argument you knew was 2 on 1 just to screw with me. Now who is breaking Rule 5?
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Doesn't matter. You have not been given permission to have members of his species in your nation. No one has the right to do something with someone else's nation or species without their permission, on any scale. On that matter, have you even asked Werhner about including Crayven slaves in your nation?


Bolded for your benefit. Now, I'm done with you, since you are obviously just trying to dredge up old issues and create conflict. Haz has been PM'd, so we will see what Haz thinks of this.
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Says the guy who jumped down my throat for Vanadium and is now jumping down my throat? You relentlessly object to everything I do for no other reason than that I did it. Where did Wehrner get his million Marked, or the demons get their thousand Daemonrexiacs? Doesn't matter, but ho boy better not let Ender have some shipwreck survivors.
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Also, I did not ask if I could border them. Scandalous, I know. I messed with their borders WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION!!!1!!one.
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Hey Sovereign, what kind of reception would a member of the Dominion expect if they were to wander into your nation? Thought I would work some more on nation relations, and realized I didn't have anything yet for your nation, yet it is literally right next to me =P
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The reason why it didn't matter how the Daemonrexas get their thousands of Daemonrexiacs is because they are derived from criminals and villagers unaffiliated with any player nations (except maybe a handful for fun gameplay reasons provided that the other players want it).

And I think you guys ought to calm down a bit. This is just a game, a text based game floating somewhere in the internet. If you should get angry at something, get angry at something related to your career or studies.
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Oops, I don't think I have anything for the Khaganate in my relation sheet either.
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According to Shimm, there cannot be any unaffiliated people, so watch out!
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Alfhedil said
Hey Sovereign, what kind of reception would a member of the Dominion expect if they were to wander into your nation? Thought I would work some more on nation relations, and realized I didn't have anything yet for your nation, yet it is literally right next to me =P


The Kişilər Qanaxma (just Kişilər for short) are a pretty open people provided you don't insult them. So nobody would really bat an eye at your person, except for maybe the rather interesting fact that you need those leaves of yours.
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According to Shimm, there cannot be any unaffiliated people, so watch out!


Nice try, but I never said that. Troll harder please.

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The Kişilər Qanaxma (just Kişilər for short) are a pretty open people provided you don't insult them. So nobody would really bat an eye at your person, except for maybe the rather interesting fact that you need those leaves of yours.


Glorious, then the Tarix-Na and your nation should get along excellently, since they are very friendly towards other nations they visit.
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@Soveriegn:
Khaganate of the Bleeding Sea: Neutral
-Palmyong’s knowledge regarding the Khaganate mostly stems from recounts told by its Dominion allies. Because the Dominion and the Khaganate seem to get along, it is possible that favorable relations could be cultivated.

How's that sound? I may add a little once your NS is completed.
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-sad face- I do not think anyone needs to fight. -nervous face- Can not ender remove the slaves and every one be friendly again? -curious hopeful face- Also hi. -waves and happy face- I am joining too. -nods-
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So unaffiliated Lorenvolk exist. Kthnx.
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... Still thinking of joining, against my better judgment. If possible, I'll claim the land south of the Ralgons for a steppe/semi-settled nation.
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So unaffiliated Lorenvolk exist. Kthnx.


Nobody ever said that. Unaffiliated humans exist because humans don't belong to anybody, but Lorenvolk were created by someone so their creator gets to choose.

EDIT: Also, people can work out specifics of their relations with my nation once I get more of my NS up. I actually have a good chunk written right now if anyone wants to take a look.
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So Boerd said
So unaffiliated Lorenvolk exist. Kthnx.


That's not how it works. Try harder. You have to have permission from Raptor FIRST before you just go and claim that you have members of his species enslaved. So, instead of wanking and metagaming your way into an advantage against another player, WAIT FOR HAZMAT TO RESPOND TO YOUR BULLSHIT.
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