[quote=Turtlicious] You realize a majority of the people who post in Off-Topic also post in spam?And like I said before, they're not going to because it's a performance, just like the magician doesn't show you there are two ladies in the box, Spam isn't going to break Kayfabe because you don't understand it. [/quote] Most of OT people are in spam. But most of spam are not in OT. We even have people from OT here who were part of spam admit it's pretty bad and they stop or reduce going there as a result. As for the magician example, you're implying the magician is already showing the trick. In which case you consider the trolling, derail of topics, and cliche making to be their Intelligence. If that's what spam's Intelligent coversations are... then they have none. There is a huge difference between having an actual argument and points behind it, and simply trying to troll people to assert some sort of "Dominant Alpha Spam Male" position without actually ever addressing or giving thought to a certain topic. So if they're replies of "You're stupid" or "Words! Words are boring! Look how cool I am cause I posted this picture!" is what counts as Intelligent debates that can't be recognized. Then that's basically the same as saying "That McDonald's cashier's job is just as important, thought provoking and respectable that a scientists work in evolution. You just can't recognize it!".