[quote=ActRaiserTheReturned] Also, wizards don't have to grow on trees. They are wizards, not demi gods or gods. It would be like Gandalf trying to fight Melkor. [/quote] For the record that's a very bad example since technically Gandalf was one of the Maiar which was the type of celestial being directly below the Valar which is what Melkor was. They both were divineish beings