[quote=Turtlicious]
You are completely ignoring what I'm saying, you're moving the goal posts, your point is tangentially related to the subject we were discussing, and you're taking a shit on McDonald's employees, who most are just trying to survive.Your either retarded or a very good troll, either way I'm done with you. Learn how to debate your point proper, then try again.Without the classist bullshit as well.e: I was never arguing spam is a place for debates, I just think it's dumb to say you can't have a discussion that's intelligent in spam, when you have to be pretty intelligent to find a way to fit in. Which is why the best posters are generally pretty smart, erego they must be having discussion that's intelligent, even if it doesn't fit your weird arbitrary standards.Please get over being laughed out of spam, you can say their nothing but trolls, but that's because you don't know how to fit in with them lmao.
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Goal posts never changed :P
You're trying to prove that spam does (or at least can) have Intelligent conversations.
I'm showing how they've never shown any reason for people to believe that. 

I'll admit my wording/deliever with the McDonalds point was off/out of line.
The point with McDonalds was highlighting the general environment/what it takes to work.
McDonald's the requirements are pretty low, cook fries, take an order. Purpose/end result being people get food.

It would be inaccurate to say that such an environment was one that's good for something like science or long discussion.
It's possible they could, but it's not an environment set up to do so.

While positions such as scientist require a lot of effort, dedication, education, discipline etc to pull off.
And if you do it well the end result is the benefit/advancement of humankind.

If McDonald's want to claim they're at that level, they're free to. But they need to prove it.
And them simply saying "You need to look at us more" or "Those scientist are just mad cause they wouldn't get along with us" are not good arguments.
Not meaning to claim OT = Scientists though, no where close. But it is a community that has easily proved it's merits for Intellectual conversation and addressing the argument, not the individual.
While spam, has established itself as a community that addresses the individual, not the argument. And if they do address the argument it's usually "TLDR, I don't like reading".

And that last bit follows logic same as "Stop saying High School mentality/cliches are silly. You're just mad at not being on top".
Spam runs on a broken and vicious system, we've even had people here who did come out on top of there system admit this.
You don't need to be popular/accepted by a system before being able to say if it works and/or makes sense. 

To be fair, it does work if you're looking for a High School boot camp sort of thing.
Or you happen to enjoy constantly playing social mind-games to gain popularity points.
But it does not work at all as a place for people to be accepted/looked on by merit, skills and abilities (well, if those skills and abilities are anywhere other than being socially charming that is).