So Gwazi, here is what your post should have looked like!

[My] goal posts never changed :P You're trying to prove that spam does (or at least can) have Intelligent conversations. I'm showing how they've never shown any reason for people to believe that. I'll admit my wording/deliever with the McDonalds point was off/out of line. The point with McDonalds was highlighting the general environment/what it takes to work. McDonald's the requirements are pretty low, cook fries, take an order. Purpose/end result being people get food. 

To be fair, it does work if you're looking for a High School boot camp sort of thing. Or you happen to enjoy constantly playing social mind-games to gain popularity points.. But it does not work at all as a place for people to be accepted/looked on by merit, skills and abilities (well, if those skills and abilities are anywhere other than being socially charming that is).

/gwazi

This is what your posts should look like when you're trying to have an intelligent discussion, I took out all the crap that was just repetitive or pointless.