[quote=Kestrel] Buying a hamburger instead of donating the extra money to those who need it more than you is selfish also. A lot of things people do is selfish. I'd go as far as claiming selfishness is a pillar of both survival and happiness. Maybe not the one burger, though.So I'm not really sure what you're trying to convey. [/quote] Good, now that you dropped the idea suicide is not selfish I can go on to break this Loki fallacy of incomparable pain. Suppose a bigot is depressed at how the world is going. Can he do "whatever he wants with his own body" and use his mouth to yell racial slurs against black people and will you "respect that"?