[quote=So Boerd]
Both cases involve knowingly causing pain. Whether pain is the intention does not matter. Both cases, the person knows what kind of pain they will cause and they still do it. The suicidal person just inflicts infinetely more pain.
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Your pain is not my concern if I want to die, get a divorce, or say [i]no more[/i]. Do you think wars are won, or legal battles satiated, by appealing to pathos? No. [i]Not at all[/i]. Your being offended or upset is in no way, shape, or form, a credible claim to censoring or invalidating my right to control my own body and person as I see fit. If a person is allowed to inhale chemicals that will slowly give them cancer and destroy their lungs, or drink a substance that is [i]literally poison[/i] for the sole purpose of becoming intoxicated, or allowed to voluntarily perform extremely dangerous stunts like...
--Driving a motor vehicle beyond twenty kilometres per hour.
--Diving out of a plane.
--[i]Being on a plane[/i].
--Being on a boat.
--Swimming in the ocean knowing there are sharks around.
--Keeping pets that can kill you, which of course includes astro the dog and phoenix the cat. (Points to whoever can get those references.)
--Owning a gun, firing a gun, or anything related to firearms or explosives in general, including but not limited to: Construction, the military, police forces, recreational use, and so on.

...Then maybe, [i]just maybe[/i], a person should be allowed to choose when they no longer wish to live after being checked over by a therapist for signs of a mental disorder. We have seven billion people on this planet. Speaking from a coldly logical point of view, there is no point or purpose served in preventing someone who wants to die from simply doing it. Because those who really do actually want to die, will simply die. They will find a gun, or hang themselves, or stab themselves, or overdose on medication, or hundreds of other methods of ending ones own existence which vary in levels of pain.

Otherwise, if you don't want someone to die, and believe it to be so selfish an act as to say they shouldn't be allowed to do that, then you should cease any and all activities that increase the chances of your own demise, especially if said activities (ex: drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, working with cleaning chemicals, etc) directly can and will increase your own cause for death by slow suicide.

Your love for them is as selfish as their wish to die. That's the cold, hard truth.