I do not think they are equivalent, I think suicide is much worse. And I was not talking about hate crimes, I was talking about the racial slur guy to prove how silly an ideology which sets suicide as better is. You have been forced to add violence to my racism comparison to maintain consistency.

Ultimately, I find all suicide wrong on a religious level. What I can prove secularly is that parents should not commit suicide because they are already commited to obligations. When you had the child, you committed to raise it.