[quote=So Boerd]My racial slur comparison is so ludicrous to prove a point. I think Suicide is worse. MagicMagnum was the original target and iirc, he said suicide was alright but racial slurs were not, and I think we can all agree that is silly.I do not think anyone should be held from suicide if they are of sound mind, (catch 22, if you are suicidal by definition you are not of sound mind) however, I maintain that it is immoral.Now, your latin is terrible, by the way. It's argumentum ad populem, not argument ad popularim, and ad hominem (Ad, meaning to, and Hominem, meaning man) means using a personal insult to discredit an argument, as opposed to simply calling the argument dumb as mere commentary.[/quote] Hm. I see. It still weakened your argument from the eyes of a third party, though, so... :hehe Persons who are no longer capable of living without direct assistance, such as the elderly, or those with terminal illnesses, are perfectly within their sound mind to want to end their own lives. Like Alzheimer's disease. It literally kills your brain slowly, and painfully. You cease functioning as a person and constantly hurt yourself and your family. Or late onset dementia, which a family member of mine has. If they wanted to end their own lives, I wouldn't blame them, and I wouldn't consider it immoral, considering how disconcerting it is for the rest of the family, and as for him... I can't even imagine that. What it must be like to have a normal life slowly unravel into deranged hallucinations and paranoia. Then there's the bedridden, and those living on life support who just want to die with dignity instead of having someone wipe their ass for them. Where you see a religious wrong, I see a moral right to it. They're in constant pain, it's only going to get worse. [i]Let them die the way they wish to die[/i]. The same applies towards those living in crippling poverty with no chance of escape: Let them go. Saving one just so you can throw them back out onto the street again to live cold, lonely lives full of alcohol, drugs, and violence?... That's... No. That's immoral in my eyes if they wished to die to escape that. I never claimed my Latin to be fantastic. I didn't Google them, nor do I run a spellchecker for OT posts. I tried to type them from memory. Figures I couldn't get it right. Thanks. :lol [quote=ActRaiserTheReturned] That's why hate speech laws are retarded. /end of hijacking [/quote] Eh'. Fine line, but complex shit with many layers. So.