[quote=Turtlicious] Of all the things on god's green earth that didn't happen, this didn't happen the most.Like... What? How would you even for a second think people would believe this?e: Like I know this is the internet, but you can not seriously expect us to believe you on your word that you were in a 5-some, prostituted by a teenager, and then witnessed an axe murder. That is stuff that makes the news, or police reports. That is a story with very identifiable and trackable paper trail, and just screams absolute lie from the rafters. [/quote] I'd like to highlight that stuff like that do not have a 0% probability. Very little? Yes, low enough I would not take Act's story here and go around referencing it as if it's fact. I'd need hard proof before I do that. But when simply for the sake of a a discussion, one which will not have any impact outside of the mindsets of those taking part I'm willing to act Act's word for it. Plus regardless of if the stories were true or not I was willing to address Act's argument and treat it on it's merits, not the history/emotional responses that would accompany it. As long as the participants are able to keep such emotional bias outside of the arguments and reasoning the harm should be minimal. Additionally, I'd like to highlight this is the Internet. A community full of people who stay anonymous. and especially on forums are looking for community's to accept them and have a new identity in cause their real life is either hard or won't accept them and on top of that people tend to be more open about bad experiences online than in person. So please note that when online you are both more likely to run into people who have bad experiences than you are in real life and they are also more likely to talk about them. Now, listening to my own words about separating bias/emotion. I would personally rate the story was rather unbelievable/unlikely. On top of that I would not defend it with an argument such as "You can't disprove it!", that is a huge logical fallacy. But there's nothing gained in trying to tear the claim apart/disprove it assuming it is fake, if anything Act risks having the arguments made have less weight if Act chooses to hide behind them too often for the argument being made. Though I've already said that assuming it is true I hold a strong respect for Act, and I assume it goes without saying that if said story is false my view/opinion of Act would drop drastically. But like said, there's nothing to be gained to trying to tear it apart without knowing 100% for sure that's the case.