[quote=Keyblade87] second it's a chance for the characters to grow stronger [/quote] Funny you should mention that. Wes can't get stronger. Well, he can, but it's useless in the long run. He loses in every situation outside of his opponent admitting defeat themselves, which, if anyone has at least a hint of his reputation, wouldn't happen. He knows this in-universe, so it's very important that he needs to find ways to set up situations where losing counts as a 'win', and of course, winning still counts as a win. Against him, it isn't a battle of strength, but rather, a battle of mentality. Just think about it. He has a skillset practically tailor made to screwing with anyone who fights with him... If only he'd realize that (though he's getting there). Incidentally, I actually didn't intend for that playstyle, but I realized how much more fun it would be to play a character that relies on guile rather than Shounen power ups to 'win'. Plus I didn't quite think through completely the implications of his 'curse' of losing all the time and having all of his soul-related abilities stem from him being beaten, pushed around, and spat on his entire life. [quote=joeycbee] I say everyone is pretty even besides Wes and Red which i would find pretty funny if they save the day. [/quote] This. We need to fit this into the story. Somehow. [quote=joeycbee] i just though of another "conflict" what if later after (or before) the conflict with the witches we can have a tournament? [/quote] Last place for Wes. It must be so.