[quote=Doivid] New York and California are somewhat reviled in general conversation. Same way people stigmatize the south, which is probably worse in a lot of ways. I would probably do the same thing if I didn't have family from the south and realize what kind of prejudice they face in other parts of the country. [/quote] News to me. I mean I've seen people bash on California and the South and such, but not really NY before. *shrugs*