[quote=BB]
Since you don't seem to be following the arguments or understanding how Fragarch works, I won't be able to explain it to you on here.However, if you are truly interested in its limitations, feel free to PM me if you're that interested. I will be perfectly fine in explaining them all to you, after this situation is resolved, naturally.
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actually i've been following the disscusion rather heatedly, laughing at the fact that everyone seems dead set on defending something that is blatantly overpowered so i think that putting it's limitations out here on the thread right now would be a wonderful thing personally

[quote=GuyYouWishYouDidntKnow]
You can kill him without using a trump card. A trump card isn't "something that can kill him", it's "the greatest capability" of a being, though this is an oversimplification.There are also ways to beat Fragarach, even if a trump card is used. Blah, I said I wouldn't post anymore. BB already explained this. Etc.
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however, you just said it would activate on one of steins basic attacks that could become a trump card, and then you said it would activate on the mere fact that stein was building power which actually isn't an attack. so if you could just clarify things on exactly, in detail, a trump card is that would be wondorous