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@cthulu: Uhh... Since I am not too sure whether the question did not simply get skipped over when in the beginning of my sizable post of sort-of-ramblings, sort-of-actual-wonderings up there, do you have any preference in regards to which of us posts first? Not sure how much my post would affect Thaler, but then again it depends onwhat she does or does not do...

(Wouldn't make much of a difference otherwise, but I am not too sure whether I'd get to any posting before Thursday if I haven't posted by tomorrow morning. I am going to be in a place of somewhat questionable net connection.)
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@Shien Ah sorry I did miss it and I've just stuck up a post. I've been contemplating what to do post wise as I don't want her to do what she's planning as it's rather dramatic but its the only thing she really will do. Anywho post is up and hope you have a good trip :S
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There, I am back now, and at least somewhat coherent. As said, just let me know if something in my post is conflicting, and I'll edit. (He's pretty much trying to hurriedly hand out a few orders and such before dashing downstairs.) Will do Etakar soon, though I can't promise I'll do so before I sleep.
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Apologies for the wait. A lot of crap had happened since my last post that went from bad to worse, with my university exams on top of that. However, as I promised Shien on Skype, I have finally posted. After Monday, I should be a lot more active as I would have finished university by then.

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I presume it is Jack's turn to post in the collab now? I am not entirely sure, since technically it was him, not cthulu, before me...
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Jack, quick question:
Is this light similar to sunlight? Because if so... I might be in a pickle, haha.
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@Rhaevnn Xeno:
I actually asked that question a while back, the person of random thoughts like I am. :-P

Shienvien said Would the light from the ???-character's runesword (or most other magical invocations of light) hurt vampires? Or, more generally, what in Reniam's case makes it so that, say, the light from a campfire wouldn't, but a sun's light would hurt a vampire?

Dark Jack said The light of the runesword would not harm vampires beyond simply blinding them the same as it would any other mortal creature. It is not even possible to reproduce the harmful effect of sunlight through magic (not yet, at least) [ ... ], the light hurts them simply because it is from the sun. Why? Because Rilon decided that it should be that way. He thought it would be fun.
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Curse Rilon :C

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Post is up! Lemme know if I need to fix anything!
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@Shien I believe it's Jacks as there isn't much more for Thaler to do at present except warn everyone and give them the general 'plan'. She'll be waiting until everyone's been warned so she can head downstairs and get her 'friend' the Yth.
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Sorry for my absence. I've been busy with school, but now it's summer, so I will be able to post again. Jack, should I just resubmit Salas or make a new character, considering Salas just went brain dead because of my absence?
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See, I read your question relatively soon after you had written it, sartorous, but I decided to take some time to think it over... to sleep on it, even, hoping to come up with the fairest, most diplomatic and reasonable solution for this matter for you, the other players, and myself. It took a little time, but I think I have arrived at an acceptable compromise for all parts involved. You can decide freely whether you want to resubmit Salas or a new character, although if you return Salas you will need to have a believable explanation ready as to how he survived and escaped the Anaxim Forest... IF you agree to the following terms.
One: If you take more than 48 hours to reply to this post, that's an automatic, unnegotiable "no" and will mark your permanent departure from The Prophecy. Taking a while to post IC is completely understandable considering the quantity and quality that is expected to be written, but checking for new posts can be done in a matter of seconds, and a quick OOC remark can be made in a couple of minutes. When you ask a question as important as "may I rejoin this RP?", I would say that it is common courtesy to check back quite often immediately after asking it and replying to the person giving you permission. Last time you never really did that, and we didn't hear from you for over a month after you asked if you could rejoin. That is unacceptable, and if that is going to be standard with you the RP will do without it, because that is aggrevating to me and players possibly being held up waiting for you.
Two: You must swear to that you will never simply disappear again. If you are going to be a player that just drops one post every several months and then disappears off the face of the world in the meantime, as you have been thus far, the RP is better off without you. Players and myself have waited and been delayed immensely several times waiting for your replies that never came, and I won't have the enjoyment of other players sacrificed for the participation of one player. If you can't be as active as usual for a while that's fine, we all understand that real life must be the first priority, and we all let ourselves be delayed by it from time to time... but once again, dropping a quick OOC remark to let us know of this circumstance takes neglectable time and allows us to compensate for your absence rather than just wait impotently for progress in events that never occurs.
Three: When I ask if you are still here - and you will be included in "everyone" - you will tell me if you are, or I will assume you've left and remove you from the RP permanently. I'm fair when I ask and usually give relatively long time to respond, but expect a response I do. If you can't even drop a "I'm here", I'll have to assume that you aren't here.

I may sound like an absolute ass, but I can't simply say "welcome back" and let you rejoin unconditionally anymore. Your activity, and the way you have announced your absence - or rather, the lack of announcement of absence - has been unacceptable, and when a player goes missing like that it affects everyone else in the RP. I need to know that this won't continue. I'm sorry if this discourages you from participating in the RP, but I have to set the RP itself above the individual player. Accept the terms and you may rejoin; if you won't or can't, you may not.
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I apologize for my absences. I agree to the terms. I won't just simply disappear anymore. I'll drop an OOC post to let you know when I can't post for a while. As to whether or not I'm going to resubmit Salas, I'm going to have to think on it for a few days, so it may be a little bit before I post a character sheet. I will check the OOC though for roll calls and such in the meantime though.
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@cthulu: Keep in mind Aemoten would be downstairs, if Thaler went after him, and most likely notice her immediately. He'd most likely be crouched trying to get the big yth's fangs loose since she asked for them. I may type up a short paragraph or a few with him if I wake up before you get a post in, but I won't advance is side much, for obvious reasons.

EDIT: Actually, I'd probably put off posting anything with Aemoten until I know whether Thaler reacted in any manner to him talking to her in my last post with him.
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Jack, another quick question:

As for Morgan's healing factor - does he need free flowing blood for this to occur? (as the mystery lady's sword instantly cauterizing the wound could be a problem if this were the case... ^_^;)
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A vampire does require their blood to be actually applied to their wounds (from the wound itself or by extracting it from elsewhere) to trigger their accelerated healing, which is why fire is such an effective way of weakening or even destroying them. Cauterizing the wound would mean that Morgan would not regenerate that particular wound as rapidly as he usually would have unless he was injured somewhere else for him to bleed and apply blood from.

Although admittedly I'd think that it would be much more worrying that a hole was rendered in his clothes - in this case they would even be burned through - allowing part of him to come into direct contact with sunlight... which would be far more lethal to Morgan than any flame. Actually he's incredibly lucky that he hasn't ripped his clothes while climbing around those buildings, or he might have burst into flame and melted before he ever had a chance to do much of anything.
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Regenerative healing would mend the damage as long as the entire organ is not removed, I recall from the time the group fought vampires at one point - only removing the heart or head kills, but losing any other organ could be rather permanently extremely unpleasant (although with, say limbs and such, where does what begin or end? if to sever a lower arm in the middle, would there still forever only be a stump at that length despite halves of the severed muscles and bones remaining? and if you removed a solitary muscle at connection-points, that'd not grow back, either? I at least presume a completely removed bone would not...), as well as it is technically possible to bleed a vampire dry.

It should be rather hard to tear sizable holes into clothes just climbing buildings... Fighting anyone wielding a blade, clawed, fire-magic, acid, or otherwise destructive agents in daylight is still be an incredibly bad idea, though. No shadow within a handful of yards and he'd be gone if a sizable hole that he can't immediately cover up with a hand or something (turn that side away from sun? that might work in some cases) gets torn through his clothes.
I wonder, though, how much would full clouds dampen sunlights' effect on vampires? These only scatter sunlight, but don't really block it entirely.
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Where to start... meh, I'll just take it in the order it was written in the first place.
Shienvien said only removing the heart or head kills, but losing any other organ could be rather permanently extremely unpleasant

Since the time I established this all the way back then I've actually expanded upon the effect of removing of removing parts of vampires, particularly the removal of their hearts and/or heads. Now, mostly nothing has changed in regards to removing organs from before, and carving out a vampire's heart or beheading them will still technically kill them, although this death may be less than permanent on its own. A vampire will die in the sense that it completely ceases to function and enters extreme dormancy when one of these is removed, but in the event that these were returned before the vampire dried out - which would render it irrevocably destroyed - they could be ressurrected. In fact a vampire could be carved to pieces and effectively killed, yet be capable of reanimating to their full strength as long as they were prevented from running out of vampiric blood (the heart is the one exception to this; with it, any blood would do, since a vampire's heart converts mortal blood into vampiric blood).
So by this new mechanic beheading a vampire or removing its heart would actually only incapacitate it; letting it bleed out, burning it, subjecting it to sunlight or stabbing it in the heart with a wooden object are the only ways to prevent revivation (the part with the wooden object makes sense; I was slightly disappointed that no one tried it back at the church so I could demonstrate that).

Shienvien said although with, say limbs and such, where does what begin or end?

As long as vampiric blood is applied to the outer limit of an injury, the vampire will regenerate that entity to completion if given enough time... that is, if a limb was severed, for instance, a severed bone would extend and rebuilt its own shape, but not any bones past that. In the example you presented with the forearm being cut off at the middle the forearm itself would regenerate to the wrist, completely rebuilding its body up to that point, but not past it; the hand would not regenerate on its own. Other, more extensive entities in the body such as veins/arteries, tendons and so forth would also restore themselves, but only as far as the shape of the body allowed, meaning that in the example above the regeneration of these would stop at the wrist as well, rather than grow past it and create a horrible incomplete excuse of a hand. Removing a solitary muscle as connection points, as you said, would remove that muscle permanently unless it was returned, in which case it would reattach itself. Generally speaking any part cut off a vampire could be returned to it and reattached with the application of vampiric blood.
I realize what this implies and yes, a vampire could technically slowly and unbelievably painfully clone itself this way, by removing incomplete parts of themselves (pieces of bone, muscle, skin, organs, etc. rather than whole ones), keeping supplied with plentiful vampiric blood (somehow) and eventually reassemble the different parts to an entirely new vampire. It would literally take tons of blood and a very long time to do this, but it is theoretically possible. A vampire having an arm cut off at the middle of the forearm would also present a slight problem if the one wanted to reattach the hand after somehow having preserved the arm for a while and likely having regenerated their own forearm, since both the severed part and the intact one would have its own complete forearm. It would be necessary to sever the hand at the wrist to actually reattach it... or their own arm at the elbow, though I can't imagine why they would do that aside from the greater risk of the severed arm bleeding out compared to their entire body.

Shienvien said It should be rather hard to tear sizable holes into clothes just climbing buildings...

I just imagined that with the walls of the building apparently being rough enough for a man to climb up and find foothold on, it would also be rough enough to potentially catch and rip clothes, particularly if one was to throw oneself bodily at it. I'm not saying that it would be inevitable, just that it was a possible risk. Besides, the hole wouldn't need to be very big... just a small bit of vampire-skin being subjected to direct sunlight would be enough to pretty much spell its doom, considering that the skin would burst into flames in seconds, which would at the very least be liable to expand the hole pretty quickly.

Shienvien said I wonder, though, how much would full clouds dampen sunlights' effect on vampires? These only scatter sunlight, but don't really block it entirely.

You're right about that. According to my hastily-executed research on how much a heavy cover of clouds would actually scatter sunlight, I'd estimate that a vampire might last about three or four times as long as usual under these conditions. They would still suffer the same fate, it would just take a bit longer.
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I see. So *any* organ will regrow as long as some amount of its tissue remains, but no regeneration to the extent some lizards and amphibians (and plenty of non-vertebrates) have it. And demonstrate the effect of impaling a vampire on a wooden object? That's something ... visually apparent, then, I figure. (And my brain helpfully offers a few random options as to what could happen. My brain also helpfully suggested trying to build a vampire out of the pieces of several...)
- Were there even any usable wooden objects in the church itself? I kind of imagined the interior being mostly stone and pillars, an if wooden objects had ever existed in there, then those to have been long rotten enough to be easily crushed to dust in hand. Someone would have had to run out to acquire a suitably pointed piece of a branch... blades and sunlight were more readily available.

Climbing on buildings more relies on various ledges, windowsills, indentations in the walls and such, not anything, well, sharp enough to act as a blade or pointed enough to impale fabric on it. I doubt that Zerulic buildings are commonly adorned with hooked protrusions of some sort, perhaps the occasional lifting mechanism (for stuff, not people) excluded?

...Now when I think of it, Rodorian architecture hasn't been talked about much (speaking mostly in terms of the RP), the occasional description of plot-relevant building left out.

((I'll post once I'm home, I think. Will be a handful of hours till then.))
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Dark Jack said
A vampire does require their blood to be actually applied to their wounds (from the wound itself or by extracting it from elsewhere) to trigger their accelerated healing, which is why fire is such an effective way of weakening or even destroying them. Cauterizing the wound would mean that Morgan would not regenerate that particular wound as rapidly as he usually would have unless he was injured somewhere else for him to bleed and apply blood from.


Hm. Okay, I figured as much, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks Jack!

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Although admittedly I'd think that it would be much more worrying that a hole was rendered in his - in this case they would even be burned through - allowing part of him to come into direct contact with sunlight... which would be far more lethal to Morgan than any flame. Actually he's incredibly lucky that he hasn't ripped his clothes while climbing around those buildings, or he might have burst into flame and melted before he ever had a chance to do much of anything.


And I honestly hadn't thought about this... Another thing to remember for the future, I suppose. :o
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Name: Salas Eldritch Age: 26 Race: Human Gender: Male Occupation: Mercenary Appearance: Salas is of a fair complexion for a human, especially one under the sun as much as him. He wears his messy ash-brown hair in a short fashion so that it stays out of his eyes and barely reaches his ears. Salas’s world is seen through a pair of sharp green eyes set above his high cheek bones and under his arching eyebrows the same color of his hair. His chin is covered with a thin goatee that stretches up his face a few inches. There is a scar that stands out easily on his face because it has healed to a lighter shade than his skin; it starts under his eye on his left cheek and runs at an angle inward and ends under his left nostril. He appears hardened and weathered, causing others to naturally want to distance themselves from him. Salas has a wiry and toned frame that reaches up to five feet and nine inches. His body is riddled in scars caused from his lifestyle. Salas is almost always seen wearing his red leather armor that appears to be more straps than anything; his armor is made with thin but durable metal plates around his wrists, shins, knees, shoulders, and chest. Small leather pauldrons that are almost unnoticeable are built into the shoulders of his armor. Along with his armor, he wears a pair of leather gloves made of the same red leather as well as a pair of boots made with thins soles that fit his feet so that he can climb, run, and walk easily; unfortunately because his boots are made with thin soles, they aren't made for tougher terrain, so he is forced to slip on an extra pair of boots with harder soles. He wears his dagger and sword on opposite sides of his belt and his throwing knives in a harness over his lower ribs. The only other thing he wears is a hooded, rough-looking burgundy cloak with frayed ends and many hidden pockets on the inside, in which he hides things such as: his lock picking set, poisons of various types, coins of different currencies, etc. Skills: Gifted with the flexibility and dexterity he has trained for years to achieve, Salas is able to dodge most blows in ways that would rival the niins' natural flexibility. These abilities are what make Salas an excellent fighter. Over his twenty-six years of life, Salas has traveled much and picked up a multitude of abilities. One such ability is being able to move about unseen and unheard in the shadows; he learned this and how to navigate the seas from a Melenian he met early on in his life. Not being able to practice his navigating skills has made him rusty and slightly forgetful when or if he ever has to sail. His other main ability, which is very important indeed, is the ability to communicate by manipulating the wind around him to match the sounds of speech, which is the full extent of his magical abilities. The reason this ability is so important is because it’s his only way to speak with others since his tongue was cut out. Salas is also a keen observer of his surroundings, being able to think of ways to use them to his advantage. Weapons: Salas carries a dagger, ten throwing knives, and his saber.
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