[OOC] The War of the Three

[The 42nd Gecko]

@KoL Hey, I posted it here because I wasn't sure about scale. Getting feedback is exactly why I posted it early. Thank you for the prompt feedback.

I'll just tone down all the superlative language and take whatever I can get.

That said, you said you made an attack that said it was with all the power of a supernova, and it got mostly shrugged off. So I could probably use what I had posted, and then the factory just shrugs it off.

[TheWendil]

My Internet has been fixed. Rejoice.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@TheWindel Jubilation and glee.

[Gardevoiran]

You guys ever have that feeling like you have no idea what you should do? I'm getting that feeling right now.

I'm thinking that I should have Eve kamikaze Henrietta again, since she turned her back to Eve, but that sounds cheap.

As for Lillian... nobody on the Machina side needs much healing just yet, aside from maybe Tina and the Cloud.

[Lmpkio]

@Banana Tina is fine lol Unit-T is ready to kick some ass (maybe)

[The 42nd Gecko]

@Banana People have tried doing healing before. It rarely comes up, because if you get beat, your opponent rarely leaves you alive. It occasionally comes up when you win but take some damage while doing so.

[Gardevoiran]

@Lmpkio
I'd ask if you'd mind having Lillian nearby and providing some passive healing, but Unit-T is massive compared to Lillian, and friendly fire might be an issue.

[Lmpkio]

@Lmpkio
I'd ask if you'd mind having Lillian nearby and providing some passive healing, but Unit-T is massive compared to Lillian, and friendly fire might be an issue.

@Banana

Its only 10 meters tall. Yes its big, but not like humungous. It can also kinda heal/repair itself, but that takes a bit of time before one can see results.

[Gardevoiran]

@Lmpkio
I thought it was the size of Godzilla. Healing is now more plausible.

Also, even if it self-heals, more healing wouldn't hurt, would it?

[Flamelord]

Well I can't do anything there now, but once Cloud does manage to capture someone Lillian can help make sure they don't escape by offing themselves :V

[Gardevoiran]

@Flamelord
That's amazingly sadistic.

@The 42nd Gecko
True. Maybe Lillian will eventually graduate to a Witch Doctor instead of her current Normal Doctor self.

[Flamelord]

@Flamelord
That's amazingly sadistic.

@Banana

I prefer the term practical. What's the point in taking a prisoner if they're just going to kill themselves to escape?

[KoL]

@Banana

There's also a small bit of an issue that Lillian is inside the factory (acting against Eos' orders of helping the troops outside), while most of the Machina troops are outside.

After Ciel put a barrier there, she basically cut any routes for Lillian to exit or anyone else to get inside, so the only ones she can interact with are Eos and Shizuka (if she can catch up to their location).

[Lmpkio]

@Lmpkio
I thought it was the size of Godzilla. Healing is now more plausible.

Also, even if it self-heals, more healing wouldn't hurt, would it?

@Banana

It can grow larger actually to that size, but that'll be shown another time perhaps.

Oh of course not lol

[KoL]

Now that I think about it, this is probably the main reason why the Machina never win anything. The Angels do Deva's biding and tend to cooperate. The Demons may bitch around but generally do as they are told and act with some tactics (usually).

The Machina on the other hand, don't even follow some simple commands from Eos and always act on the every man for himself mode.

[Lonewolf685]

@KoL

Which is really paradoxical given the Machina gain all their power from Eos. Weird.

[TheWendil]

Because Mankind's free will is a sin.

Or something.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@KoL To be fair, they are almost all working as a team to try and beat ciel to save the factory from being blown down.

[Flamelord]

Considering Eos hasn't been acting like a commander beyond vague 'do this thing' directives to specific individuals, I'm not surprised that the Machina are winging other at the moment.

EDIT: Like, going back the only person to disobey a command from Eos is Lillian. And this is because she is the only one to actually get a direct command from Eos. The only other applicable thing that happened in the entire battle was when Eos told her people at the beginning to essentially kill people and defend the factory. And since the factory was basically indefensible from the get go, they're doing their best anyways. So claiming that the Machina fail because they're incapable of listening to directions that haven't been provided is incredibly misleading

[Lucius Cypher]

I think the issue with the Machina is that they pretty much require teamwork and cooperation to get anything done, whereas most of the Angels and Demons have more than enough power within single units (PC's) that they can be far more independent. Frankly I imagine Grafdakka alone should be powerful enough to take on anyone 1v1, but knowing the sort of can of worms that opens up, I typically don't make him that powerful. If he manages to kill anyone it'll be because he's picking someone off that the others were already fighting.

I mean compare/contrast any Machina soldier that isn't controlled by a GM or former GM, and match them to another faction's character. The powers aren't quite on the same level, me thinks.