[OOC] Gaia's Glory [A Sci-Fi Nation RP]

[OfWindAndRain]

so are my ideas on the unified china and australia allowed?

@aonly9470

There's nothing saying no, mate. I'd say go for it- I just don't think it'd make any sense. China's growing more powerful, and I couldn't see a growing sect of Christianity overthrowing the government, before the government kills 'em all or otherwise subdues them.

And very few nations would willingly merge with another, simply because it might buy them a bit more prominence or somesuch. There's a lotta countries nowadays that would benefit from joining a greater whole- and yet some are growing even more withdrawn.

You do you, man, and the OP didn't say anything about it and the GM didn't say anything about, but I don't think it makes sense.

[aonly9470]

I meant china explicitly targeting australia and them going peacefully to save lives, also the reason you don't see the christian sect in china is because if you did they'd be getting executed in secret because china wants to show that their three churches represent christianity in their country

[OfWindAndRain]

@aonly9470

My logicking of this

Australia is a founding member of the UN. Unless the UN fell (which is unlikely, being that every major world power besides Russia and China are in it), then anyone trying to fight Australia would likely have to deal with the combined might of UN's strongarm- NATO. And NATO includes America's very sizable military.

The US has long supported countries under threat from communist rule- Korea (which we halfway succeeded at) and Vietnam (though we did fail at that, more because of publicity than anything) are a couple examples. We've been in a constant Cold War up until the downfall of the USSR because they wanted to expand and spread communism, and we fought very hard to have that NOT happen.

The US supports South Korea's independence from the much less democratic North Korea, so why would we, and therefore NATO, allow a founding member of the UN come under annexation of a communist nation?

Nations don't just go peacefully under another nation's banner just to save lives. North Korea is constantly threatening their significantly smaller (militarily speaking) neighbor, South Korea, with ballistic missiles and the like. If just to save lives- why don't one of them give it up to the other? Governments don't simply bend a knee to another unless there's literally no way for them to win. Japan knew they were going to lose the Pacific War against America- we were winning territory every month, pushing them back into their home waters, even though they practically destroyed our most powerful ships at the beginning- and very thoroughly. Japan didn't surrender until we were on their doorstep, preparing a massive invasion, and AFTER we dropped experimental warheads on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Australia is hardly like Japan, but the point still stands- great bodies of power- a government- will not bend knee to someone or something else unless there's extremely few other options.

Like I said, you do you, man. If you wanna go ahead with it, go ahead with it. I'm just saying that if you look at it logically, reasonably, there's no real way for China to conceivably want JUST Australia.

Another thing is that religious radicals are extremely looked down upon- ISIS is an example of a religious sect that's gotten way too radical. Entire countries, some of which have nothing more to do with ISIS than having the same skin color, are being practically persecuted by western nations, and in our case- cut off. If Christians were to do the same and overthrow the Chinese government- provided that the Chinese government doesn't kill them all first, if what you're saying is true (if they're fine executing them as they find them, then they won't bat an eye at killing all they can find if they start rebelling)- they'd be labelled radicals, and only China's economic importance would be enough to save its relations with other nations. More than that, China would probably be thrown into chaos with such a rebellion, because of how big it is, how many people there are, and how many of those people simply don't know what's going on or even if they care.

Summarization/conclusion:

Hider

You do you- if you want to do it, do it. My argument is just that, if you want it to be completely based on logic and reason, given circumstances that hasn't thrown the entire world into upheaval (the UN and NATO dissolving will do that), then a Chinese-Australian singular entity is nil. Maybe an alliance, something where both parties share research and resources to fund a mission, but I'd doubt that, considering the Chinese space program is almost like NASA at this point- it doesn't need assistance.

[OfWindAndRain]

@Lady Selune
Also, who's accepted and who's not? The roleplay is labelled 'Apply,' so when we post that little CS thing, we need some confirmation, yeah?

[Lady Selune]

@Lady Selune
Also, who's accepted and who's not? The roleplay is labelled 'Apply,' so when we post that little CS thing, we need some confirmation, yeah?

@OfWindAndRain

Also, changed.

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[Asura]

I am a tad confused. Do we issue orders on our first post? Do we make multiple choices a turn, or only one?

[OfWindAndRain]

@Asura
That's the thing, though- this is an Advanced-level Jump-In-style Nation Roleplay with a not-required CS that's half of any other NRP CS I've ever seen, with a game mechanic that isn't even used by the OP.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Lady Selune]

@OfWindAndRain It's good, but holy shit you have done way too much. There's about 5000 people on the first ship to satisfy the 5000-50,000 rule of genetics, and you've dismantled a massive ship, gone straight Donald Trump, laid concrete foundations and started a strip mine?!

[OfWindAndRain]

@Lady Selune
Diggin machines were used to make holes, and one big hole. Given the technoboost of twenty to thirty years, plus the investment they'd receive by being used for a first colony, they'd be notably more efficient than modern day excavators and the like. I've used an excavator; the fusion reactor chamber isn't that big (certainly not an entire control center there), and an excavator can dig rather quickly when working around the clock. Concrete is also not that hard, especially when on flat ground without anything in the way.

That being said, I do agree I did it too fast, but I didn't know I had that many people. You skimped on a lotta details, and you've only been confusing with even simple questions/replies. I'm winging it because I have no bloody clue of the specifics.

A'course, if every posting cycle is a year, then I can take away specific timestamps. By the first posting cycle, all of our colonies would be very definitely finished, and then some.

Also, that's not Donald Trump.

(and saying that they're starting on a strip mine is much different than actually having one completed)

I threw in about 4x the time for that settling.

[Asura]

I'll await confirmation before posting.

[null123]

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[Lady Selune]

@Lady Selune
I am assuming since its Jump-In I am already good to go? Also how many colonists/resources/other things do we have to start with?

@duck55223

Yup, and you get 5000 colonists, and enough resources for your first settlement.

[Lauder]

I'll begin writing a post after school! I'll finally be giving this the attention it deserves!

[Lady Selune]

@aonly9470

Sorry, but Australia is taken. Canada, NZ/Aus, UK are part of my Earth group :/.

[Asura]

@Lady Selune

I am a tad confused. Do we issue orders on our first post? Do we make multiple choices a turn, or only one?

@Asura

Cough.

[Legion02]

@Lady Selune Hi! I wanted to make a Private Company colony and it appears I best explain my idea to see if you're okay with it.

So the basic premise of the colony would be that it's a private company that's been raised up with the promise of finding either a habitable world or, if the world traveled to is deemed ill-suited for full-scale colonization, to strip-mine it of valuable resources to send back. Due to the market, costs of building full-scale colonies and other factors, the corporate top would mostly prefer to find ill-suited planets. Which brings us to my colony faction (Atlantis Inc - Expedition Alpha). Expeditions from Atlantis generally consist of a load of scientists with a few bodyguards to protect them from hostile alien life. Along with quite a bit of food and other equipment to set up a self-sustainable base. Generally, once the base is established enough data had been gathered to let the boys back at earth decide whether or not the planet is deemed hospitable enough. However, corporate sort of rigged the game. Only the scientists didn't know that (the engineers and guards did and do). So once in space, the scientists got a new mission briefing. Which basically said: make sure your tests are done in such a way that the planet is deemed inhospitable so we can start digging deep. The plan does expand beyond the scientists (guards, when landed, are tasked to start destroying alien nests and such).

My idea would be that my first colony ship has the following resources:

Military: Low in number, averagely equipped.
Scientists: High in number.
Engineers: Average in number.
(Total population: average)

(Small question here, are robots a thing already when we land or must they be build up first?)

Edible supplies: Average surplus. None-renewable (Farms are generally part of phase 2)
Processed resources: Average surplus. Enough to built the first city and plenty for the scientists' their labs.
Raw resources: Very little. Engineers are expected to get factories and harvesters up and running as soon as they arrive.

Aid: Generally a combination of processed resources & edible supplies in phase 1. Once phase 2 commences most scientists will return (and silenced by corporate) and a steady flow of engineers should be added to the aid package.

Tell me what you think!

[Lady Selune]

@Legion02 Robots are not already with you, because that would be slightly OP. There's also no distinction between different professions, other than 'civilian' and soldiers. If you'd like, I can start you off with a slightly larger military than normal.

Lastly, nobody straight wants to ruin Gaia. Exploit it, sure, but not ruin it- Earth is fucked to shit, and Gaia is the most hospitable planet they've found.

[Legion02]

@Lady Selune Ah, in that case, I can probably roll with some corporate greed if you don't mind. Obviously, as you said yourself, they wouldn't immediately start destroying Gaia. Maybe first try to create some more sustainable regions until they realize Gaia got plenty of natural resources (as it probably hadn't been mined by any indigenousness population).

Also, I'll take the slightly larger military. Gonna start working on the NS now.

[Lady Selune]

@Lady Selune Ah, in that case, I can probably roll with some corporate greed if you don't mind. Obviously, as you said yourself, they wouldn't immediately start destroying Gaia. Maybe first try to create some more sustainable regions until they realize Gaia got plenty of natural resources (as it probably hadn't been mined by any indigenousness population).

Also, I'll take the slightly larger military. Gonna start working on the NS now.

@Legion02

Hey, I didn't say you can't straight napalm everything, that's the plans of most people because some of the native fauna is hella scary, you just can't nuke everything.