Underrated and Overrated Video Games

[The Nexerus]

Overrated: Fallout: New Vegas.
Underrated: Fallout 3.

New Vegas was a Fallout 3 mod sold for $60.

[Yamada Zero]

Overrated: Fallout: New Vegas.
Underrated: Fallout 3.

New Vegas was a Fallout 3 mod sold for $60.

@The Nexerus

Now that's a hell of an opinion, it'll be interesting to see where it takes this thread.

[Fabricant451]

Overrated: Fallout: New Vegas.
Underrated: Fallout 3.

New Vegas was a Fallout 3 mod sold for $60.

@The Nexerus

I wish all mods were demonstrably better than their base games.

_{Fallout New Vegas isn't even that good but Fallout 3 is so bad it killed my beloved pet and buried its corpse}

[Yamada Zero]

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I wish all paid mods were demonstrably better than their base games.

@Fabricant451

Fixed that for you.

[The Nexerus]

I wish all mods were demonstrably better than their base games.

@Fabricant451

Really good mods that a lot of people prefer to the vanilla game are not an unusual phenomenon. There are various CKII and HOI IV mods (Kaiserreich is notable in particular) that totally convert the game to a different world and which are the favoured mode of play by a lot of hardcore fans. The difference is that the Kaiserreich mod for Hearts of Iron IV is free, and the New Vegas mod for Fallout 3 had a triple-A price tag at launch.

[Fabricant451]

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Really good mods that a lot of people prefer to the vanilla game are not an unusual phenomenon. There are various CKII and HOI IV mods (Kaiserreich is notable in particular) that totally convert the game to a different world and which are the favoured mode of play by a lot of hardcore fans. The difference is that the Kaiserreich mod for Hearts of Iron IV is free, and the New Vegas mod for Fallout 3 had a triple-A price tag at launch.

@The Nexerus

I understood a few of those words but more to the point calling New Vegas a mod for Fallout 3 is like calling Borderlands The Pre Sequel a mod for Borderlands 2. You're wrong to think that but I can understand the logic behind it.

[Yamada Zero]

@The Nexerus

You had me at Hearts of Iron IV.

Always fun to go into hiding as Adolf Hitler when you lose World War II, then to return years later as the leader of Argentina, "Señor Hilter".

[Dolerman]

@The Nexerus

You had me at Hearts of Iron IV.

Always fun to go into hiding as Adolf Hitler when you lose World War II, then to return years later as the leader of Argentina, "Señor Hilter".

@Prawn

There are more unironic nazis playing For Honor than there are in a game where they can be Literally Hitler.

What a time to be alive.

[Yamada Zero]

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There are more unironic nazis playing For Honor than there are in a game where they can be Literally Hitler.

What a time to be alive.

@Dynamo Frokane

Nazis playing For Honor? I've not heard this before, do you have a news article about this? I'm curious.

[Dolerman]

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Nazis playing For Honor? I've not heard this before, do you have a news article about this? I'm curious.

@Prawn

No its more of an internal community thing. A few edgelords like to have swastikas as their emblem. When it get's discussed on reddit, the large number of alt right type opinions get exposed. Its shocking to some people because the idea is that people who fetishize white nationalism usually gravitate to games like HOI, Crusader Kings and War Thunder. But For Honor accidentally has the aesthetics there to attract them too.

[Yamada Zero]

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No its more of an internal community thing. A few edgelords like to have swastikas as their emblem. When it get's discussed on reddit, the large number of alt right type opinions get exposed. Its shocking to some people because the idea is that people who fetishize white nationalism usually gravitate to games like HOI, Crusader Kings and War Thunder. But For Honor accidentally has the aesthetics there to attract them too.

@Dynamo Frokane

Ah, you'll always find people like that trying to cause provocation. That's the thing, I've been playing War Thunder and Hearts of Iron IV for a fair bit of time and I've never really encountered people like that. At worst, you see Wehraboos but that's about as alt-right as I've seen it get. For the most part though, it's just people who have an interest in the time period just dicking around. Games like HoI are an excellent way of testing out what-if scenarios. Least that's how I've always seen it.

[Dolerman]

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Ah, you'll always find people like that trying to cause provocation. That's the thing, I've been playing War Thunder and Hearts of Iron IV for a fair bit of time and I've never really encountered people like that. At worst, you see Wehraboos but that's about as alt-right as I've seen it get. For the most part though, it's just people who have an interest in the time period just dicking around. Games like HoI are an excellent way of testing out what-if scenarios. Least that's how I've always seen it.

@Prawn

Yeah I agree, I've not seen anything overt in those communities, but For Honor is something else. It's not just the emblems its, the rabid defense of anything white nationalist and then complaining about things like a black gladiator. Granted this is only what i've seen on Reddit.

[Yamada Zero]

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Granted this is only what i've seen on Reddit.

@Dynamo Frokane

Ah, see there's your problem right there. Fucking Reddit.

[Dolerman]

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Ah, see there's your problem right there. Fucking Reddit.

@Prawn

Yeah probably.

[Dolerman]

Underrated:

As far as well balanced, technically pure fighting games go. Virtua fighter is top tier, I think just for whatever reason the characters didn't catch on well as household names like SF MK and Tekken did. I think it also has that odd aesthetic of being similar to DOA (even though it came first) but more bland and stripped down visually which means nobody has a reason to go and pick it up. But this game is so damn smooth and responsive. It's one of the few 3D fighting games that isn't Tekken or Soul Calibur 2 that does it right.

[Yamada Zero]

The original Soul Calibur on Dreamcast was the best game ever.

[Fabricant451]

Underrated:

As far as well balanced, technically pure fighting games go. Virtua fighter is top tier, I think just for whatever reason the characters didn't catch on well as household names like SF MK and Tekken did. I think it also has that odd aesthetic of being similar to DOA (even though it came first) but more bland and stripped down visually which means nobody has a reason to go and pick it up. But this game is so damn smooth and responsive.

@Dynamo Frokane

I can't believe Dynamo and I agree on something. I think this is a sign of the end times.

[Dolerman]

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I can't believe Dynamo and I agree on something. I think this is a sign of the end times.

@Fabricant451

Don't be dramatic, we also agree on Far Cry 2 being praised out of spite of Far Cry 3 and.....Dante being cringe. I think that's it.

[Todd Howard]

"I think it's really important to reiterate this: Anyone who spends the next two weeks expecting Fallout: 76 to be a new traditional single-player RPG will be VERY disappointed"

- Jason Schreier

Welp, into the trash can it goes.

[Yamada Zero]

Wait, wrong 76.