[OOC] From the weakest goblin to the Strongest god

[Jangel13]

It's basically why every stage of evolution I have set has requirements. What your telling me is no different then what I have been doing. As for artifacts that remains to be seen

[Haeo]

@Jangel13I was trying to work within the existing framework. Thus, I'm glad that you can't tell any functional differences. As for artifacts, I suppose that I meant 'gifts of the gods'. It could be anything that the deity might consider a worthy gift for their up and coming follower from a sword with a blade that is only visible to the wielder to a flying mount or armored gauntlets that allow extremely fast digging, even through rock. When gods go up against each other through followers, if historical mythology is any guide, they usually use a combination of blessings and gifts to strengthen their chosen elite while all their followers get blessings.

Furthermore, the entire tree is merely a suggestion. I am but a sideline idea man. I do hope that part of it is useful at least.

[Jangel13]

@Haeo

Thank you for your help truly I appreciate the work you have done in creating the tree but I'm just not comfortable with using it at least as iss

[Haeo]

@Jangel13 Feel free to modify or retool it as needed.

More importantly, are there any important distinctions or world elements that I'm still not understanding? If so, that's something that I need to know before I concoct any further submissions.

[Jangel13]

@Haeo

Not up the top of my head at the moment

[Haeo]

@Jangel13 Alright, so at present the weakest part of the tree is the element that concerns the goddesses. If that were simply removed would there be any other problems that need to be corrected?

[Jangel13]

Okay what do you mean by cutting down a tree? Please tell me you aren't planning to cut down the earth mother's tree@Haeo

[Crusader Lord]

@Jangel13 Ah, speaking of killing things, how much EXP did Nyma and Barth get for the spider kill? XD

Nyma tried to dedicate the kill to Duvelna, so not sure if that worked unless Gird was close enough or such.

But still, i am curious. :P

[Jangel13]

@Crusader Lord

Go to the first page and look for demon spider and double it for you but regular four Barth

[Kheliop]

So I just need to kill 12 spiders. Gotcha.

[Jangel13]

@Kheliop

You don't get the double xp though

[Kheliop]

@Jangel13 That's why I have to kill 12, well 11 now. 12×9=108

[Jangel13]

Just wanted to make sure you weren't counting the double xp boost. Still unless you want to take the asura line I suggest killing other creatures

[Kheliop]

I intend to, just did the math for the spiders since that's what we are hunting currently.

[Haeo]

@Jangel13 Oh, gosh... I had thought of that but it didn't seem like a worthwhile endeavor. Now that you bring it up though... hmm.

On a more direct note. That modification would reduce the progression tree to the following.

Simplified Tree (WIP)

Goblin

Hobgoblin

Hedge Doctor - Skilled in making both medicine and poison, often from the same ingredients which are found in nature.

Shaman - Developing an understanding that all forms of life are entwined within the world's magic and the ability to enhance medicines and poisons with magic as well as some direct magical control and simple animal/plant manipulation.

[Balanced Branch after Shaman]

Trail Walker – Stronger in magic, medicine, and poison than a Shaman. The Life Walker is devoted to honoring the balance and order of the world. These can cast spells and perceive events through the network of interwoven living things around them. They are also able to magically strengthen and speed the growth or decomposition of plants.

Vale Guardian – Able to see through the eyes of every natural creature within a large area, alive or dead. Bonded with a strong tree, which defines the center of their vale, and two magically strengthened beasts that are meant to honor life and death. Able to wield powerful nature magic of both growth and decomposition in an almost unlimited way within their vale so long as they act in contact with their tree. The Bonded Beasts are able to leave the vale while still revealing all they perceive to their Guardian and retaining their strengths as well as remaining under the guardian’s direction.

[Death Branch after Shaman]

Bog Walker – Significantly stronger in magic and poison than a Shaman. The Bog Walker works to honor and preserve the dead from being unnecessarily disturbed or defiled, gaining strength for every set of intact remains that they preserve within their territory. The Bog Walker can perceive anything that happens within a limited area of a dead creature’s remains and can cast spells remotely through any corpse that is already partially decomposed (There is a range limit.). They are also able to call up and empower the spirits of dead animals to protect the remains of the dead within their care, however, they prefer to wield poisonous plants and similarly lethal beasts instead whenever possible.

Wisp Guardian – Vastly stronger in magic than a Bog Walker and innately poisonous such that their touch alone can kill most living creatures, the Wisp Guardian has chosen a barren place to be a burial ground under their protection. A small group of beasts serve them by gathering and moving the bones of dead creatures and people to the burial ground, but the defense of the place is largely left up to the magic of the Wisp Guardian who has largely abandoned physical form and become a creature of light and fog. All plants and animals that inhale the fog of the Wisp Guardian become thralls of it, strengthened by it’s magic and made immune to poisons while becoming poisonous themselves.

[Life Branch after Shaman]

Breath Walker – Significantly stronger in magic and medicine than a Shaman. These devote themselves to healing injuries, opposing disease and working to enhance longevity in all forms of life, gaining strength from every successful effort. They can perceive events that occur, and cast spells remotely through, any living creature or plant that they have already treated in person. They can also bind large numbers of beasts to their service and empower them so that they can better protect the area around the shrines and the Breath Walker. However, these beasts are not bound to the Breath Walker’s will. They will act of their own volition to accomplish these few priorities. The Breath Walker can form direct Pacts with two strong beasts which will then serve their will directly and be able to travel with them freely.

Life Guardian – Vastly stronger in magic than a Breath Walker and having both a healing touch and a purifying breath, these have decided to never limit themselves to a single territory and instead devote themselves to traveling and doing the most good for the most living things that they can. They are able to form pacts with up to five beasts and can mark trees or other long-lived plants with their magic, allowing teleportation between the plants that are marked. (The Life Guardian is only able to transport one passenger along with them and their pact marked beasts via this method.)

[Jangel13]

@Haeo

Write this down because I will only warn you once: she is the fury of earth itself. Piss her off and SHE WILL KILL YOU, if you manage to bring down her tree SHE WILL KILL YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE!

[Haeo]

@Jangel13 So that would be a guaranteed TPK then. Quite literally, "Rocks fall. Everybody dies." Good thing I wasn't planning that kind of thing at all. Challenging a deity is only a viable path if you have a way to both kill and replace them. That's two major kinds of power that all of the current players combined couldn't even get close to. So, no. I'm not that stupid or chaotic. Evil maybe... but not that chaotic.

[Jangel13]

Thank God, I would rather not create another new world because someone got cocky

No offense))

[Haeo]

@Jangel13 No offense taken. Though I would like your opinion on the simplified development path. Requirements for the various steps and other details have been left out because I thought it would work better if you balanced that aspect.

[Jangel13]

@Haeo

As for your list send it to me through a pm and I'll make the tree when I get to it. In all honesty the abilities and powers that each step is able to take is very good thougb I will change things to have single minded devotion for either life or death. From my requirements ill create quests much like what goblin arch is doing now