[OOC] Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

[Pepperm1nts]

<Snipped quote by Pepperm1nts> It'll do so on its own I'm sure. The point I am making is the "It needs to happen eventually" situation is too easy to exploit, so these things will be heavily regulated. Like I said, if you can pull it off in a way that looks good it'll be allowed. If you want to be important and get concessions, focus on writing things people want to read.

@Vilageidiotx

You're saying this like I'm the one demanding better tech. I don't care about modern tech. What I am concerned about is that Europe will be stuck in 1950 forever for no good reason. I agree with the concerns. Hell, I was there agreeing to put the rules in place. But it shouldn't be something that is absolute and in place forever. Because that would be really stupid. The only difference here is that you and Aaron are arguing for it to be a forever-thing, while I am arguing it shouldn't be.

[Dinh AaronMk]

I'm also going to take time to remind people this exists and some folk haven't done anything. Also looking at you Hugs.

[Dinh AaronMk]

<Snipped quote by Vilageidiotx> You're saying this like I'm the one demanding better tech. I don't care about modern tech. What I am concerned about is that Europe will be stuck in 1950 forever for no good reason. I agree with the concerns. Hell, I was there agreeing to put the rules in place. But it shouldn't be something that is absolute and in place forever. Because that would be really stupid. The only difference here is that you and Aaron are arguing for it to be a forever-thing, while I am arguing it shouldn't be.

@Pepperm1nts

As far as I'm aware I haven't been grilling anyone for saying they're working on things in that direction when they've been posting. I know several have mentioned they're working on research into these obligatorily advanced fields. But I'm keeping an eye on them to see if it's actually interesting and if they're actually going to do it interesting, and not to-the-side Civ 2-tier adviser updates.

[Wilted Rose]

In other news, El Dorado is good.

[Pepperm1nts]

Shut up Italy.

[Vilageidiotx]

<Snipped quote by Vilageidiotx> You're saying this like I'm the one demanding better tech. I don't care about modern tech. What I am concerned about is that Europe will be stuck in 1950 forever for no good reason. I agree with the concerns. Hell, I was there agreeing to put the rules in place. But it shouldn't be something that is absolute and in place forever. Because that would be really stupid. The only difference here is that you and Aaron are arguing for it to be a forever-thing, while I am arguing it shouldn't be.

@Pepperm1nts

Don't be i'norant, son. We ain't saying that tech in Europe is stuck in the fifties. When tech leaders move on to more advanced stuff, the default tech will move up. If you want to jump out of the default, you got to do so in a way that looks good. And what I mean is this. We don't want to see a meeting between dudes saying "Country is needing some tech. Let us develop a tech. Build the lab and do the tech.", followed by a string of bland posts that look like "Our tech is becoming good tech. All that good tech is being better tech now too." Fuck that noise. Run some espionage mission. Have a guy who tries to come up with jet tech and ends up with a different interpretation of it. Forget about making jets and instead develop something that counters them. When you do things like this, make sure they involve difficulties and trials. Nobody wants to see a spy mission where a perfect spy shoots his way through IB headquarters and waltz's out with the tech in their briefcase. Nobody wants to see somebody create something unbeatable. And, more important than anything, nobody wants to read posts about a nation where all they do is things like successfully tech up and get better politically. Gotta see setbacks and character growth. We wanna see depth, and that means accepting and involving your faction's flaws.

[Wilted Rose]

Millions of Italians are now sad. Anyway, I've also been working on a post. Knowing me, it'll be posted in a month.

[Pepperm1nts]

<Snipped quote by Pepperm1nts> Don't be i'norant, son. We ain't saying that tech in Europe is stuck in the fifties. When tech leaders move on to more advanced stuff, the default tech will move up.

@Vilageidiotx

This was never clarified until just now. There was no reason to believe we would ever go forward with anything because no one ever bothered to set an end-date for the tech limitations until now. Which is exactly what I am arguing should have been done from the start. We set up these rules without thinking of an end-date for them. It was something we made happen because shit had gotten out of hand (in part because, again, no one ever bothered to call this shit out when it was important) and we needed a quick way to fix it. So we did, but without really looking at the long-term effects.

[Chapatrap]

Millions of Italians are now sad. Anyway, I've also been working on a post. Knowing me, it'll be posted in a month.

@Wilted Rose

THE LOCOMOTIVE MUST CONTINUE! STOKE THE COALS AND KEEP POSTING EVERYONE! Anyway, it's about 12 months since this thread was posted. 12 months since we left the flaming ruins of MCF and settled in new lands. Lets hope we can stick around here for a long time.

[Vilageidiotx]

<Snipped quote by Vilageidiotx> This was never clarified until just now. There was no reason to believe we would ever go forward with anything because no one ever bothered to set an end-date for the tech limitations until now. Which is exactly what I am arguing should have been done from the start. We set up these rules without thinking of an end-date for them. It was something we made happen because shit had gotten out of hand (in part because, again, no one ever bothered to call this shit out when it was important) and we needed a quick way to fix it. So we did, but without really looking at the long-term effects.

@Pepperm1nts

You're looking at it way too rigidly. Precipice seems to be quite capable of moving forward organically, we just made sure to put a leash on it so that growth could happen in a way that wasn't 'tarded. We've assumed that tech will eventually move forward. And remember, we've advanced three months of RP time in the last year. We're not blazing ahead so quickly that the tech question is going to be a pressing one.

[Shyri]

So, quick question. Is my rescue of Lawrence Williams from Canada still canon, or did that get scrapped when we moved to the new forum?

@Shyri

Reposting since I doubt it was noticed.

[Chapatrap]

<Snipped quote by Shyri> Reposting since I doubt it was noticed.

@Shyri

I'd say yes, since Canada isn't being played and it's your character but I'm not Grand Arbiter of Canon. I updated Mihn's map to include country names: There's a few discrepancies (I left Syria blank and forgot a few tiny nations) but it's mostly all there. Even the colonies.

[Dinh AaronMk]

<Snipped quote by Shyri> Reposting since I doubt it was noticed.

@Shyri

I presume so. Then again, I thought the Spanish had kidnapped him too.

[Pepperm1nts]

Oh yeah, I remember the moving train car he was in being SNATCHED BY A FUCKING PLANE.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Or was it a helicopter?

[Chapatrap]

I thought he was stolen by the Spanish afterwards. Feo, sort it out. BRITANNIA NEEDS TO RULE THE WAVES AGAIN.

[Space Communist]

Or was it a helicopter?

@Dinh AaronMk

Then who was phone?

I thought he was stolen by the Spanish afterwards. Feo, sort it out. BRITANNIA NEEDS TO RULE THE WAVES AGAIN.

@Chapatrap

A PAX BRITANNICA SHALL SWEEP THE GLOBE LIKE NEVER BEFORE, YOU UNCIVILIZED BRUTES

[Chapatrap]

Reminder to all of you who don't know/forgot we have a wiki that needs fuck loads of updates on it here and some of you still need to throw a nation sheet into the Character tab. Looking at you, Noiz and Revan.

[Space Communist]

Reminder to all of you who don't know/forgot we have a wiki that needs fuck loads of updates on it here and some of you still need to throw a nation sheet into the Character tab. Looking at you, Noiz and Revan.

@Chapatrap

Right, right, Ima do that...at some point.... The Wiki, though? Pretty sure that's gonna take a cubic fuckton of effort to fix, not just on my part.

[Wilted Rose]

Man, I'm looking at the map right now and just... I need that Libya back in my life.