[OOC] Daemon Web- NMV

[Vordak]

Enforce the grapple rule, Leeroy. *winks at Melon*
Or disregard the breaking one.

[LeeRoy]

I am enforcing the grapple rule, I have been resisting his grapple this entire time. He has not been resisting my break.

[Vordak]

No, i mean that one grapple rule saying that a grapple takes several turns to accomplish.

[LeeRoy]

You mean the grapple that he initiated on me? Where he put me into a grapple, rather than it being necessary for me to initiate my own.

[MelonHead]

You've been unsuccessfully resisting the grapple.

Where-as your break doesn't even make sense. My character's arm hasn't moved from under your characters neck, so the bone hasn't been damaged in the slightest.

I'm also amused by the poignant effect the complete beatings my character has been dealing on your own are having coupled with the fact that he's already drained a tonne of energy from your character. You have a hole in your chest, my character has hit yours in the head at least three or four times, but still he's at peak strength apparently despite the fact that a rear naked choke floors pretty much any human in ten seconds.

The fact that your character is slightly more adapt than a human should be perfectly offset by the fact that FURY IS FUCKING OP AT THIS EXACT SCENARIO.

Also, Vordak, try reading the posts.

1. Attempt grapple
2. Grapple lands (though his character tries to pull forward) mine own reacts by jumping up a tier and applying pressure (first lock)
3. Second resistance is pretty much exactly the same as the first, your character uselessly clawing at my forearm (probably the worst way to escape the choke -period-) second lock applied when character pulls back and prepares to jump into the air.

[Vordak]

Actualy yes, i re-read the rules and posts, and have to agree with Melon on the grab & lock.

BTW, there were other, more effective ways of getting free, so the lock was in no way unaviodable. One that i can think of is dislocating Fury's elbow with a punch, forcing him to release Kanitah. Fast, powerful, amped by the rings, it could even tear his forearm off.

[MelonHead]

And as I said before LeeRoy, I'm going to have to check with whoever accepted your character on you being able to multiply your character's pulling strength to that degree. It seems unlikely they would have allowed you to have an ability to increase your strength to roughly twice the maximum allowed with no significant penalty.

[LeeRoy]

Have I been unsuccessful? As I have:
Broken your toes, prevented you from choking me, and I've been pushing out against your arm to keep it from making proper purchase on the choke.

It takes 20 turns for Fury to fully drain me, as you said 5%. I'm not even down to half energy.

The only injuries Kanitah has are a cracked rib and superficial skin loss. There is no hole in his chest, it is his skin peeled away from his metallic underskin that was formed by the engine. There is still a layer of machine between his bones and the air. Two times, mind you, and he has taken injury both times. Skin loss, both times. No fractured bones.

Kanitah is not a human, he's not as easy to floor as a human, he's well beyond the limits of peak human ability. As a high tier character with enhanced bone and muscle structure, combined with a mechanical boost to both his muscle and bone structure. He's incredibly durable and resistant to injury.

I have also taken repeated advantage of pulling at your arm, and pushing against it. You maintain this concept that Kanitah is only slightly superior to a human. He is vastly superior to a human.

It was Green who accepted my character. And as it says in his sheet. This is striking and pulling force, this is not lifting force.

[MelonHead]

Pulling force -is- lifting force LeeRoy.

I've worked in light haulage for three years, I know this well.

And all that is fine, but for -most- of this fight Fury has been at the exact same tier as Kanitah, so it should roughly be compared to two humans beating each other up (within reason) because we can hardly imagine two OP titans doing it.

Therefore the damage should roughly equate.

[LeeRoy]

It is an INSTANCE, not a SUSTAINED force. It stops immediately after happening.

[MelonHead]

LeeRoy said
It is an INSTANCE, not a SUSTAINED force. It stops immediately after happening.

That would still allow you to lift far above the limit, albeit you'd throw the object rather than carrying it, but the effect is still exactly the same.

[LeeRoy]

Except the high tier punch to your ribcage at past mach 1 that should have carried a vastly superior amount of damage that you kind of brushed off. Though I won't touch on that because I was letting it slide.

[MelonHead]

There's a simple solution to this problem, neither of us has our character break any bones, and you take superficial damage from the knee to the back at best.

Or you can try and maintain a hold over Fury, which seems like the most idiotic thing any person could do.

Even with a dislocated or broken arm, Fury's still taking all your energy, you should be glad that he's breaking contact with you.

[LeeRoy]

Green has told me he'll re-review my sheet. Mind you.

[MelonHead]

LeeRoy said
Except the high tier punch to your ribcage at past mach 1 that should have carried a vastly superior amount of damage that you kind of brushed off. Though I won't touch on that because I was letting it slide.

Fury broke two ribs instantaneously, despite his block, and your speed is fairly unimportant considering your character shrugged off a punch to the head immediately before that with exactly the same speed, if my knowledge of physics is correct.

[MelonHead]

If you wanted to get real technical about it, your character should never have even landed that punch, as he had no conceivable way to not be thrown like hundreds of feet backwards by the punch to the face, but whatever.

As you can probably see, I've been letting a lot slide because I was under the impression you preferred a cool fight to the hyper competitive type Green prefers.

[LeeRoy]

I'll edit my post so it's a bit more reasonable and we'll let this go. How about that?

[MelonHead]

LeeRoy said
I'll edit my post so it's a bit more reasonable and we'll let this go. How about that?

No problemo.

[LeeRoy]

Done.

[TheBiddz]

Alright, give me a few more hours to post, it will be up by the end of the night.