[OOC] Welcome Back to the Guild

[Kaga]

xcalx1dw said
Man that "I don't travel with soliders" Was so out of place...Sure He's doesn't exactly like Soliders....but it was just....soo....weirdSoon my precious.....soon

Yeah, it seems like the only reason they came up with that was so the Doctor would have some reason to reject Pink. ...And then they only worked it into that particular episode so that they could establish that point ahead of time while they had the opportunity. :/

Edit: Also the whole notion that he doesn't like soldiers in general still doesn't make any sense. Sure maybe Ten didn't like guns, and Eleven didn't like using guns himself (though he was just fine with River using them...), and sure they both got kind of annoyed by military types, but that was only due to their general human stupidity which companions tend to be an exception to. Not to mention, in the Classic series the Doctor not only had a few incarnations where he would actually pick up a gun from time to time, but the Third Doctor practically lived with UNIT for most of his era (the TARDIS was out-of-commission for a while, so he was stuck on Earth), with the majority of his episodes involving him running around with those same military types that he now seems to hate so much for some reason. ...Granted, that's not to say he didn't spend a lot of time yelling at people to not blow up every alien thing they see, but still! There were a lot of great soldier characters that he got along with really well.

Like Sergeant Benton. Sergeant Benton was fucking adorable.

And I mean, I know that each Doctor kind of has a different view on things, but... there kind of has to be some justification for it. Not to mention his varying opinions on firearms are kind of different from the whole idea of practically discriminating against soldiers. And if they're trying to claim that his anti-soldier opinions are something he's always kind of had... then no. No no no. In the case of the new Doctors, sort of. But overall? No.

[Rithas]

No more River, I really liked her. But her story line is finished.

"The Caretaker"

I wanna guess something to do with....Children maybe? Something that takes cares of something..

"Kill the Moon"

I actually bet that the moon is actual alive or evil or something. Or the bad guy wants to blow up the moon.I hope the latter, I don't want a live planet.

"Mummy on the Orient Express"

Same, Mummy on a train...I do hope it's not ....but probably

"Flatline"

Cue the dark titles!...But, I say this will be the episode Missy and the promised land/"Heaven" come into play at least a bit. I don't think it'll be creepy....perhaps dark. Maybe someone heart fails....*cough*

"In the Forest of the Night"

This....This is going to be a creepy episode I say...but with action. The title screams "Vashta Nerada" But...I think they were a one off. But, Definitely...claustrophobic I think.

"Dark Water"

Who lives in a pineapple under the scene...SpongeBob-DA-LEK!...but, Under water and.....water monster? Maybe this will be the scary episode....meh

"Death in Heaven"

I feel like there's a famous song with this name. But, Action...And Doctor goes to Paradise/Promised land? *Explosions*

Isn't the Christmas episode title out now? Or Am I stupid and Death in Heaven is that...

Also Nick frost is going to be in it, I love him.....

[Rithas]

Fourth Doctor flat out killed, With a machine gun non the less...I dunno know....To make him more heroic perhaps? But I don't think they put it there just to reject Pink....I feel a Rory type of induction

[Animelover_princess]

Yeah I don't like their sort of rushed "explanation" of his soldier problem
I really doesn't make sense, maybe they'll explain?

[Kaga]

xcalx1dw said
Cue the dark titles!...But, I say this will be the episode Missy and the promised land/"Heaven" come into play at least a bit. I don't think it'll be creepy....perhaps dark. Maybe someone heart fails....*cough*

I actually have this theory that the Doctor will "die" at some point during this season, thus bringing him to "heaven". It kind of makes perfect sense considering Twelve has already been shown to be the most skeptical version of the Doctor we've ever met, so there's no way the Doctor would believe that heaven is real or that he's actually dead, so upon meeting Missy I'm sure he would start questioning her about the whole deal almost immediately. If she doesn't provide answers, the Doctor will go poking around the place to find some answers himself. Either way, not only will we get to learn more about this whole thing but the Doctor will actually become aware of this whole plot thread, too, thus getting the plot moving. (And then, of course, he will somehow be brought back to life before long - be it the result of something that happens back in the world of the living, or the result of the Doctor meddling in whatever the hell is actually going on.)

I have a feeling this could be the episode where this happens. Though, I have a feeling it will be spread out somewhat between two episodes, since... Come on. Just picture the Doctor getting into some sort of crazy, life-threatening situation, and then he actually dies without regenerating, and then he opens his eyes to see Missy smiling back at him saying "Welcome to heaven"... and then it cuts to the end credits.

That totally sounds like something Moffat would do.

Of course, there's also the obvious choice of leaving that sort of thing for the finale (assuming they're planning on doing this at all), but that would mean that the Doctor wouldn't even become aware of heaven or Missy until near the end of the season, and that doesn't sound like Moffat's style. The Doctor's gonna learn about all this nonsense earlier than that, I'm almost certain.

This....This is going to be a creepy episode I say...but with action. The title screams "Vashta Nerada" But...I think they were a one off. But, Definitely...claustrophobic I think.

Just because a certain alien or monster was originally intended as a one-off doesn't mean they won't ever come back. I mean, they just brought back the clock-people from Girl in the Fireplace, and certainly none of us expected that! Not to mention all those aliens that were one-offs way back in the Classic series that they managed to bring back for one more episode in the new series, like the Zygons or the Macra.

I also get the vibe that a number of new Who aliens were originally supposed to be one-offs until they decided to re-use them, like the Weeping Angels. (Granted that's not backed up by anything in particular - just my guess.) And, hell, even the Daleks, the single alien species that has been around for the longest (not counting Time Lords), was originally a one-off creature.

There is no such thing as a one-off alien in Doctor Who. So long as the show's still running, everything has the potential to be re-used someday.

So yeah. It's entirely possible that the Vashta Nerada could come back. Which could be interesting, if done right.

Isn't the Christmas episode title out now? Or Am I stupid and Death in Heaven is that...

It might've been released elsewhere for all I know, but it isn't listed on Netflix yet. Death is Heaven probably isn't the Christmas special, though, since Netflix usually leaves the Christmas episodes specially marked. Plus, it just sounds too much like a season finale to be anything else.

[Kaga]

Animelover_princess said
Yeah I don't like their sort of rushed "explanation" of his soldier problemI really doesn't make sense, maybe they'll explain?

If they do explain, it better be a damn good explanation.

[Rithas]

Apparently the Christmas special is the Season finale....so, Expect giant Cliffhanger (Very High and giant one)

It also sounds...Fianle-y But it's the 13th episode so it's not Death in Heaven

[Kaga]

xcalx1dw said
Apparently the Christmas special is the Season finale....so, Expect giant Cliffhanger (Very High and giant one)It also sounds...Fianle-y But it's the 13th episode so it's not Death in Heaven

Just picture the Doctor getting into some sort of crazy, life-threatening situation, and then he actually dies without regenerating, and then he opens his eyes to see Missy smiling back at him saying "Welcome to heaven"... and then it cuts to the end credits.

... I'm calling this now.

The internet will freak the hell out and I will be left only wanting to applaud Moffat for his fantastic trolling.

[Rithas]

We'll see when the phone rings

[Arty Fox]

I liked "Listen" until it got to the ending where everything seemed to just fall apart in a big mess. And here I thought you were improving Moffat >:T (excuse me while I screech into the distance proclaiming the Gallifrey should stay out of the universe and the Doctor should be dead so Clara can take up the name and save the universe and when she dies she passes the name onto her companion and so on so forth. :3)

I'm probably going to skip the Mummy one because phobias.

[Rithas]

Maybe it's not what we think it is.....

[Kaga]

Arty Fox said
I liked "Listen" until it got to the ending where everything seemed to just fall apart in a big mess. And here I thought you were improving Moffat >:T (excuse me while I screech into the distance proclaiming the Gallifrey should stay out of the universe and the Doctor should be dead so Clara can take up the name and save the universe and when she dies she passes the name onto her companion and so on so forth. :3)I'm probably going to skip the Mummy one because phobias.

If there's anything I've learned from season 8, it's that the fandom seems to be incredibly split over what's good and what's not. Everything that has happened so far in this season people seem to either love or hate. No in-between. No widely-held opinions. Everything's either amazing or it sucked.

I for one loved the ending to Listen and actually got really emotional.

But that's just me.

Also I have to ask... why so against the return of Gallifrey? I mean they've been implying for a while now that we would see more of it this season... and I don't see why its return is inherently bad.

xcalx1dw said
Maybe it's not what we think it is.....

...Huh? What do you mean? What's not what we think it is?

[Rithas]

I dunno, I do hope there's a really good Plot twist. Not exactly a Cliff hanger....but just a, "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS A LIE"

[Kaga]

xcalx1dw said
I dunno, I do hope there's a really good Plot twist. Not exactly a Cliff hanger....but just a, "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS A LIE"

...Regarding what, exactly?

Also I feel like this would polarize the fandom even more... >.<

[Arty Fox]

Time Lords not good, nuh uh, nope, notta.

Plus I always liked the idea of it being sealed away never to return.

[Kaga]

Arty Fox said
Time Lords not good, nuh uh, nope, notta.Plus I always liked the idea of it being sealed away never to return.

I for one am kind of eager to see things become a bit more similar to the Classics, and the return of Gallifrey helps that.

And, yeah, the Time Lords were mostly really fucking horrible people. The Doctor once called them "the most evil things in the universe", placing them even above the Daleks in terms of how awful they were... and that's kind of what makes them so interesting in the Classic series. In most of the new series they keep playing them off like helpless victims, like the Doctor's beloved family that he regrettably had to destroy in order to end the Time War... but that is not at all the case. And, I actually feel that a lot of my favorite Classic episodes are the ones with other Time Lords in them. ...Even if they are trying to kill the Doctor just about every time.

But yeah, overall I'm just eager to see where they can take this, too. I'm not against change, and I know the series thrives on it - that's why I'm eager to see what they can switch up.

Generally the only things that ever seem to be totally consistent in the show's history would be the fact that the Doctor's a nut, Daleks are evil, and companions have a tendency to do some really stupid things. ...And even those three rules seem to have exceptions every so often (except for maybe the first one).

[Kaga]

Kole dared not to ask how a robotic cat opened a locked car door,

o.o I never said MK was robotic...

[Rithas]

Oh, yeah...The Timelords were f****d up. Like, majorly.

And all the disliking fandom can suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck it!

Oh yeah new post

[booksmusicanime]

I probably should stop reading the OOC now I'm getting way to many spoilers for me. I'm so freaking far behind!

[Kaga]

booksmusicanime said
I probably should stop reading the OOC now I'm getting way to many spoilers for me. I'm so freaking far behind!

^^" I've been trying to keep it spoiler-free, if that helps. Sorry if you felt barred from the discussion.

Most of the stuff I talked about in-detail was in reference to the Classics, anyway. XD

Which reminds me... today I met someone who referred to Christopher Eccleston as the 1st Doctor and counted up from there.

My nerd rage was intense.