[OOC] The League - Superhero Sci Fi and Urban Fantasy RP

[LeeRoy]

I sense a disturbance in the force. The inkling feeling of a very long post that says I'm full of shit is inclement.

[Yog Sothoth]

LeeRoy said
Danke schon, Yog.

no problem, I know bullshit when I see it and VitaVitaAR and Dblade26 seem to not be able to get a joke when someone makes it

[LeeRoy]

Dblade26 said you've stated that IC he doesn't even care when one of the main people running the simulation AND the team you're supposed to be joining finds him impossible to deal with

About this line.

Of course Emphatic isn't going to be easy to deal with. In no realistic situation is everyone going to be easy to cooperate with. In no realistic situation is every character going to just look at an idea and say "I agree with everything and every single aspect of this thought." Sometimes a character has to disagree, if nobody disagrees with the way things are going, then everyone is at the mercy of the person they're agreeing with.

Emphatic is an ex soldier, spent most of his adult life in the Air Force, he knows how chain of command works. And in every branch of the military there's this thing called "Duty to Disobey Unjust Orders."

That translates to: If something about what you're doing is wrong morally, religiously, or ethically. You are to disobey it, question it, and report it.

In real life the same rule applies, and the same rule would apply to a League of Heroes. Emphatic realizes that not every would be hero is going to have control of their powers, and he's well aware that other people might disagree with his perspective. But different perspectives on a topic is how you get an objective view on a situation, rather than a subjective view. Where you witness it in third person.

I didn't make Emphatic to troll people, don't know where you got that idea, and I don't know where you got the idea of a long list of problems with him. But Emphatic is designed to be a genuine person, not just a character with powers. I put a bit of passion and creativity in him, and to be honest, that you don't see it is a bit upsetting.

[Yog Sothoth]

LeeRoy said
About this line.Of course Emphatic isn't going to be easy to deal with. In no realistic situation is everyone going to be easy to cooperate with. In no realistic situation is every character going to just look at an idea and say "I agree with everything and every single aspect of this thought." Sometimes a character has to disagree, if nobody disagrees with the way things are going, then everyone is at the mercy of the person they're agreeing with. Emphatic is an ex soldier, spent most of his adult life in the Air Force, he knows how chain of command works. And in every branch of the military there's this thing called "Duty to Disobey Unjust Orders."That translates to: If something about what you're doing is wrong morally, religiously, or ethically. You are to disobey it, question it, and report it. In real life the same rule applies, and the same rule would apply to a League of Heroes. Emphatic realizes that not every would be hero is going to have control of their powers, and he's well aware that other people might disagree with his perspective. But different perspectives on a topic is how you get an objective view on a situation, rather than a subjective view. Where you witness it in third person.I didn't make Emphatic to troll people, don't know where you got that idea, and I don't know where you got the idea of a long list of problems with him. But Emphatic is designed to be a genuine person, not just a character with powers. I put a bit of passion and creativity in him, and to be honest, that you don't see it is a bit upsetting.

I'm sorry that they were rude to you, normally players are nicer to new people and not jerky like that.

[LeeRoy]

Pffftch, it's no dish man. I just got out of another RP where this guy became a huge piss baby the moment I capitalized on one of the rules to punch his super special character, quit the roleplay in its entirety. I did shortly after, but for a separate reason. But this RP is still more pleasant than that one was.

Seriously, arguments every other day. Discourse after discourse, OP characters constantly arguing about who's more OP.

I honestly just hope this RP lasts, I have yet to finish an RP on this site.

[Rin]

Ahem.

I'm actually really good friends with both Vita and Dblade, and I can assure you that they were not being rude. They're the kind of people that if they bring up a problem, it's because they're genuinely concerned that it would affect the enjoyment of everyone else. I'm not going to go into a big rant here despite how I feel about this, but suffice to say calling them rude after you'd been incredibly condescending towards them, Yog, is quite frankly not on. I'm going to ask you politely to refrain from doing so in the future.

If you have a problem with this, take it to PMs because I don't want to bog down the OOC with an argument.

[Yog Sothoth]

LeeRoy said
Pffftch, it's no dish man. I just got out of another RP where this guy became a huge piss baby the moment I capitalized on one of the rules to punch his super special character, quit the roleplay in its entirety. I did shortly after, but for a separate reason. But this RP is still more pleasant than that one was.Seriously, arguments every other day. Discourse after discourse, OP characters constantly arguing about who's more OP. I honestly just hope this RP lasts, I have yet to finish an RP on this site.

I know what you mean, again I don't see why people were hostile to your character, I like his powers, it gives an interesting twist on the speedster concept. The only reason i can think of for Dblade26 not liking your character is because he probably wanted us all to have a generic standard in which all our characters agreed with each other.

Rin said
I'm actually really good friends with both Vita and Dblade, and I can assure you that they were not being rude. They're the kind of people that if they bring up a problem, it's because they're genuinely concerned that it would affect the enjoyment of everyone else. I'm not going to go into a big rant here despite how I feel about this, but suffice to say calling them rude after you'd been incredibly condescending towards them, Yog, is quite frankly not on. I'm going to ask you politely to refrain from doing so in the future.If you have a problem with this, take it to PMs because I don't want to bog down the OOC with an argument.

I don't normally make comments like that but I call bullshit when I see it, and their comments were bullshit and rude. and they should have taken their complaints to the PMs instead of starting crap here in the OOC, if you can't take it don't dish it out as I always say.

[An Outsider]

Drop the subject people. If there's a problem MrD will deal with it when he's back.

[Yog Sothoth]

BlackSam3091 said
Drop the subject people. If there's a problem MrD will deal with it when he's back.

it still doesn't excuse rudeness and pore judgement, this wouldn't have happened if Vita and Dblade26 had just taken it to the PMs

[Rin]

I meant take personal problems with people to PMs instead of blatantly insulting them in the threat. And to PM me if you had a response to that, rather than post it in the thread. I can actually see some of the problems they brought up, but I'd prefer if it was just dropped for now.

Yog Sothoth said
it still doesn't excuse rudeness and pore judgement, this wouldn't have happened if Vita and Dblade26 had just taken it to the PMs

They weren't being rude. I already explained that. Drop this now. "I have a problem with something that could affect a lot of other characters" is something that needs to be openly discussed; insults towards people for showing concern about something should be kept to PMs.

[LeeRoy]

I thought it was already resolved, I mean they didn't respond after I commented, so I figured they just gave up.

Also they tossed insults first, by the way. Blatant unfounded accusations of trolling is an insult in my book, so. . .Why are we discussing this?

[Rin]

They went to sleep. They both live in America.

[LeeRoy]

I edited my post, by the way. And I too live in America, so.

[Yog Sothoth]

Rin said
I meant take personal problems with people to PMs instead of blatantly insulting them in the threat. And to PM me if you had a response to that, rather than post it in the thread. I can actually see some of the problems they brought up, but I'd prefer if it was just dropped for now.They weren't being rude. I already explained that. Drop this "I have a problem with something that could affect a lot of other characters" is something that needs to be openly discussed; insults towards people for showing concern about something should be kept to PMs.

making a statement that someone's character is specifically designed to troll all the characters is not expressing a simple concern, it's being an asshole in my book. And i hate it when people get away with that crap and ruin people's experiences. So I'm calling them out for it.

[An Outsider]

As a neutral party I can't say any of you are coming out completely spotless on this one. Now I could post all the reasons you're being children here, or I could send them to you all individually on the PM's.

Alternatively you could do what has been suggested previously and quit beating the dead horse. Points have been made, arguing over who's in the right over the internet is generally futile, and more importantly harmful to the RP that I think we're all enjoying. When the GM gets back he'll make the final decision.

[LeeRoy]

I haven't said anything negative about anyone or anything, I'm the one being targeted yo.

[Raineh Daze]

The sonic boom of an aircraft overhead--and not coming in to land at that point--can be enough to dislodge tiling from houses. From a person in the middle of a group, there is a rather large chance that the undirected shockwaves would cause collateral damage (though probably not so badly as what happens when a normal person is moved at such speeds) and/or knock everyone over. Noise damage: bullets are generally supersonic, and they damage hearing.

Showing up at supersonic speeds, from a scientific standpoint, is a bad idea if you have any concept of teamwork.

[LeeRoy]

Dude, where are you people getting: "In the middle of the group." ?

I never said he landed.

[Raineh Daze]

A sonic boom is created simply by moving at supersonic speeds--stopping or starting makes no difference. Just moving past causes a sonic boom, as the 'boom' is people hearing the shockwave.

Interestingly, this means that he'd never hear one, as it's happening away from him at all times.

[VitaVitaAR]

I was, in fact, asleep, given it was after one in the morning for me. I would appreciate not being insulted because I see something I feel is a problem that affects multiple people in the RP.

I still have an issue with this. My character in that scene is, physically, not only not superhumanly durable in any way, but she is in fact about as durable as the average ten-year-old girl due to the physical form she has chosen and focuses entirely on her magic in order to keep up with just about everyone else. Her defensive spells are not passive and must be activated, and the only passive magic she has is her healing. She has absolutely no way to get out of this without being deafened and possibly suffering permanent hearing damage even though her healing would eventually take care of that. It would still cause severe pain and basically mean my next post is just covering that entirely. And that's a best-case scenario, because at worst something like a jet engine and a sonic boom so close by could potentially kill her. I don't care if he hasn't landed, this is a simulation and there is limited space even if it's simulating an entire city.

And that's only concerning how it affects my character. There are other characters in the room who have no protection against this. Even in the best case scenario it brings the entire fight to a grinding halt(again, limited space even though he hasn't landed, everyone is going to hear this and be affected by it) because unless someone has a defense against it they're going to be holding their ears and in severe pain. At worst, the fight being halted isn't just temporary, it's completely ended here with no chance for the characters to really prove they're worthy of joining up.

In fact, looking at your character, his power level seems extremely beyond any other player character. All he needs to do is run into a fight and he could easily win, given that a supersonic jet engine can kill people just by going near them. Even if they are superhumanly durable they're going to be stunned or even seriously injured.

There is ignoring real physics to make something cooler and more workable, and then there's ignoring something explicitly defined by being based on real physics so it doesn't cripple or kill your character because you have no other choice, which is honestly what I'm left with at this point.

This is not a personal problem with anyone, though I do feel somewhat insulted by certain people who seem to have decided I was just doing this to be mean. I genuinely feel this is a serious problem.