[OOC] The League - Superhero Sci Fi and Urban Fantasy RP

[Yog Sothoth]

Once again, I think his character is cool and see no problem with his powers.

[Raineh Daze]

I think you're alone in not seeing a problem with it. And... we're just paying attention to what a sonic boom is (answer: shockwave, which is also the dangerous thing about explosions). Or, importantly, a deafening noise right next to you. Guns damage hearing for a reason.

Hopefully not 747-level thrust, at least. :/

[Yog Sothoth]

There is a solution to this problem, he could just wait before going at top speeds. I don't see how it's over powered especially when we have magical heroes with Cthulhu themed powers

[VitaVitaAR]

The magical heroes with Cthulhu-themed powers need to to more then just run by their enemies in order to defeat them. I still feel this is a serious issue.

Also there is only one hero who is really themed after Cthulhu mythos, as the other just has a single spell that is related to them in some way, but that's not the main point.

[Raineh Daze]

Unless one of their spells is 'knock over and/or deafen everyone in the environment', that is not an issue. Power source has no bearing on end result.

[Rin]

I actually purposefully went over all of Natsumi's spells to make sure they weren't overpowered, which is one of the reasons why she took so long to write up. The only one of her abilities that could be considered gamebreaky is summoning Nyarlathotep, and even then that's only without the proper precautions that she's not going to do without because summoning Nyarlathotep without setting up a vast amount of precautions beforehand would be a very, very, very stupid thing to do and the first thing that would happen afterwards if she did so would be her death.

If you still think she's overpowered, though, please read over her and point out what's wrong with her. I don't actually like playing as overpowered characters, as I find that rather boring and unchallenging, so if she's too powerful I'd really like to know, and know how.

[Yog Sothoth]

I just gave a solution and you ignored it. If you're complaining about speedsters then you don't know much about the Flash, he runs at light speed and is a prominent member of the Justice League. his sonic boom would be no different than someone with wind powers and the ability to create hurricane force winds. I see more problems with the Hulk in a team setting than this since he can crush almost anything in sight if he loses control and he is a part of the Avengers

[Rin]

The Flash has the Speed Force, though, which actively works to prevent all of the negative side-effects of superspeed.

I'm not trying to argue, I'm just pointing out that your references don't exactly work in this case due to things like The Flash coming from a setting with a far softer approach to science. Whilst this is still somewhat soft, the OP did say things should be played realistically.

[VitaVitaAR]

The Flash ignores many of the aspects of physics that would make this problematic.

However, this power is explicitly based on realistic physics, which is what the problem stems from entirely.

I am usually very comfortable ignoring real physics, but again, this is based off of them completely.

[Raineh Daze]

Yog Sothoth said
I just gave a solution and you ignored it. If you're complaining about speedsters then you don't know much about the Flash, he runs at light speed and is a prominent member of the Justice League. his sonic boom would be no different than someone with wind powers and the ability to create hurricane force winds. I see problems with the Hulk in a team setting than this since he can crush almost anything in sight if he loses control and he is a part of the Avengers

The Flash essentially ignores physics, rather than trying to leverage them into powers. Once using physics, it's a good idea to make sure you understand what you're suggesting--maybe not to a degree level, but at least to a 'I checked the basic physics' one.

Once you start going on about sonic booms... well, I've checked the measurements, and at point blank it's basically something heavy slamming into your entire body, along with a literally deafening noise. This is just by going past.

[Yog Sothoth]

Rin said
The Flash has the Speed Force, though, which actively works to prevent all of the negative side-effects of superspeed.

You guys still didn't read my solution, and again someone with wind or control over the weather could cause more damage.

[Raineh Daze]

I have read your solution, and it doesn't address the long-term issue of 'the heroes do not have invincible eardrums'.

Someone with weather control is also considerably more obvious, and doesn't make everyone's next post 'some version of falling over or resisting falling over, then clutching their burst eardrums'.

[VitaVitaAR]

Someone with weather powers has to use their powers.

This character can, quite literally, run by someone in order to defeat them(and anyone in the immediate area).

It's even worse because the simulation is indoors.

[Yog Sothoth]

okay fine here's a solution that puts an end to all of this, he can edit his CS so that he can control the sound and power of the noise he creates and the sonic boom, so he can direct it at the bad guys without hurting his teammates.

[Raineh Daze]

Or add a hand-wave based on the fact there's current research into eliminating sonic booms (or reducing them), and thus he can just not make one, rather than getting another method of attack.*

*Admittedly, one half of this seems to be 'stick a big spike on it', which is amusing as a way of reducing things.

[Yog Sothoth]

Raineh Daze said
Or add a hand-wave based on the fact there's current research into eliminating sonic booms (or reducing them), and thus he can just not make one, rather than getting another method of attack.**Admittedly, one half of this seems to be 'stick a big spike on it', which is amusing as a way of reducing things.

What's wrong with him using sonic booms in a controlled way? tons of heroes do it, I read tons of comic books so I know what I am talking about. His character is no where near as powerful as the Flash or Superman.

[Raineh Daze]

Yog Sothoth said
What's wrong with him using sonic booms in a controlled way? tons of heroes do it, I read tons of comic books so I know what I am talking about. His character is no where near as powerful as the Flash or Superman.

Because some pretence of realism is desirable, eliminating them is more plausible than directing them whilst moving at supersonic speeds.

Also, the Flash and Superman aren't in this thread. They are bad examples.

[Yog Sothoth]

Raineh Daze said
Because some pretence of realism is desirable, eliminating them is more plausible than directing them whilst moving at supersonic speeds. Also, the Flash and Superman aren't in this thread. They are bad examples.

the moment you bring in magic then realism is debatable, and controlling sound waves is a common super power so once again this is superheroes, almost anything is possible.

[LeeRoy]

Okay, I'm gonna need the thread to shut up for a second while I say my piece about my character. Alright? Because now you're arguing amongst yourselves about me and it's the morning. I'm coming down from my literal 2 quarts of caffeine and I'm in a bad mood. Warning, graphic language is inclement.

[Raineh Daze]

Yog Sothoth said
the moment you bring in magic then realism is debatable, and controlling sound waves is a common super power so once again this is superheroes, almost anything is possible.

... but that's not the power listed. >.>

Okay, I'm gonna need the thread to shut up for a second while I say my piece about my character. Alright? Because now you're arguing amongst yourselves about me and it's the morning. I'm coming down from my literal 2 quarts of caffeine and I'm in a bad mood. Warning, graphic language is inclement.

If you know you're in a bad mood and going to swear, it's probably better to not post?