[OOC] The League - Superhero Sci Fi and Urban Fantasy RP

[Raineh Daze]

Yog Sothoth said
MrDidact also pointed out that you made your characters that way, Gabriel could go toe to toe with the trainers in the training room. when you want your characters to be like street level heroes then they are going look outclassed when compared to A list heroes. This rp is very much like the justice league and in the justice league, there are A list and C list heroes. Batman at first glance looks out of place and weak when compared to the rest of founding members of the league, but when he shows off his brains and strategic skills then you see why he deserves to be on a team of heroes like the justice league. comic books do this all the time and it works.

And you've proved you're not reading anything, just insisting 'batman' and 'comics do it'. This conversation is pointless.

[An Outsider]

Yog Sothoth said
MrDidact also pointed out that you made your characters that way, Gabriel could go toe to toe with the trainers in the training room. when you want your characters to be like street level heroes then they are going look outclassed when compared to A list heroes. This rp is very much like the justice league and in the justice league, there are A list and C list heroes. Batman at first glance looks out of place and weak when compared to the rest of founding members of the league, but when he shows off his brains and strategic skills then you see why he deserves to be on a team of heroes like the justice league. comic books do this all the time and it works.

Its not so much being outclassed powerwise Yog, its the fact that the trainers are shrugging off the hits they've taken that bother people. Furious and Changeling aren't streetclass, but they have both been pretty much trounced by Chrome, only one of the trainers.

Thankfully the training situation seems to be nearing a close then maybe our next adventures wont be as unforgiving.

[MrDidact]

Are the PCs supposed to be the focus? Yes. But that doesn't mean it should be easy . The whole point is that the PCs are supposed to suffer and get better and become the A-Listers that the trainers and the founders are. Stories are about rising to the challenge and learning and getting stronger and better. And yes some of the PCs are experienced but the majority aren't. Volt, Sonja, Hot Rod, Gabriel and Strix are old hands but everyone else is a comparable novice to fighting villains. And yes the trainers shrug off hits, but they don't do it nearly as much as you say. There was a time when everyone but three people were down for what amounted to several minutes in-game. And like I said before, they're used to taking a beating besides the fact that the ones who take most of the damage were already durable in the first place.

And to put it another way sometimes saving the day isn't fighting all the aliens and blowing them up. Sometimes saving the day is taking care of the doomsday device, protecting the President's daughter, or finding the cure for the zombie plague. There are times when firepower will be needed and the NPCs are there in the background to help. But there are times when you have to do things on the sly when everyone else is fighting. Less obvious roles, but still important ones.

When you're training someone to be a Navy Seal or something like that, the people training you are going to be more experienced, skilled, and yes probably better in every way. But the trainees aren't useless because of that. They're trainees because they are going to become the uber-badasses that their teachers are. And furthermore, individually the trainers are pretty tough but their real strength comes from teamwork. The trainers are a formidable threat because they work together and support each other. And the trainees didn't do that nearly as much. Instead they trade barbs and rush head-on into situations most of the time. When Strix makes a plan, he manages to beat back the trainers almost every damn time and that's because he uses teamwork. The RP is a team effort. Every character, big or small, supports the general effort. Not all of them are supposed to be lone supermen.

That's my thought process but I do see how the training mission was losing it's fun and I fully apologize for all the inconvenience and frustration it caused and I will keep this in mind while I GM. But I seriously don't want this to spiral downward again, so please keep this civil. And I thank you all for your thoughts and concerns. Like I said before the training mission won't be matched in difficulty for quite a while.

[Yog Sothoth]

Raineh Daze said
And you've proved you're not reading anything, just insisting 'batman' and 'comics do it'. This conversation is pointless.

you didn't really point it out, your posts made it sound like there was a difference in power and it didn't seem fair.

[Raineh Daze]

Yog Sothoth said
you didn't really point it out, your posts made it sound like there was a difference in power and it didn't seem fair.

Because you weren't reading anything I'm saying. Because I quite clearly said 'outclassed in every way', and mentioned skill and experience as well as power. It's not my fault you didn't look, and took this to mean that I was talking only about raw ability strength.

Anyway, the training mission has shown me that there's no point in continuing to take part in this RP, as anything less than either top-tier power or being a tactical genius will help, since the villains are going to be even stronger than the trainers or something. Thus, the instant there's a fight, rocks fall, everyone dies, except maybe the two characters who have durability as a power.

I have no faith that things are going to improve, so I'm out.

[MrDidact]

Raineh, I'm sorry you feel that way but I urge you to reconsider. You know me to be someone that takes my player's thoughts and concerns to heart and I have. I admit that I have gone overboard but you have my assurances this is lesson to me for the future and I will state again that things will be more easier in the future and that not everything will be focused on fighting. Your character is more suited for the stealth missions and support details that I have talked about and isn't the best suited for a fight anyway. In that sense, I ask you to give myself and the RP a second chance.

[Yog Sothoth]

I'm still in this no matter what.

[Yog Sothoth]

Rin said
...Yog, when people point out how you're casually insulting them and the things they like, . It's incredibly rude.

[MrDidact]

Yog, I'll ask you not to use images in such a way because they appear rude and flippant. This thread is for measured discussion.

[Yog Sothoth]

MrDidact said
Yog, I'll ask you not to use images in such a way because they appear rude and flippant. This thread is for measured discussion.

I'm sorry, I was just trying to keep myself from going on a rant.

[MrDidact]

Yog, Let's all try not to rant either. I hope I haven't come off to any of you as inflexible or overbearing or anything like that.

[Yog Sothoth]

I'm sorry if I insulted anyone, I will admit that I do have some frustration problems

[Arty Fox]

I think Charlotte and Ryker are going to be very good influences on Chris.
They can teach her how to punch and what not, and also how to not be an awkward silly billy. :P

[Yog Sothoth]

just a heads up, I changed some of Hot Rod's powers

[MrDidact]

I'd like everyone to keep posting in the Rogues Gallery, I know everyone has way more villains in mind than are currently posted.

[Yog Sothoth]

so is anyone going to post?

[MrDidact]

Someone will post soon, there's no rush here.

I can't wait to describe how utterly strange the Fortress is though.

[Arty Fox]

Yog, if you just quickly add in something about Ryker, or maybe even Vita could as well, responding to Chris introducing herself I can then throw in my next post. :3
The three of them could have coffeees :D
Oh god, speedsters on Coffee 0_0

[Yog Sothoth]

Arty Fox said
Yog, if you just quickly add in something about Ryker, or maybe even Vita could as well, responding to Chris introducing herself I can then throw in my next post. :3The three of them could have coffeees :DOh god, speedsters on Coffee 0_0

edited.

just so people know, Hot Rod has a really big ego lol

[Arty Fox]

I'm just wondering if I should play on the good ol' "I imagined you to be taller"