[OOC] HCL 2: Twisted tinkers' triumph

[kishin asura]

Teo, toguro has a friggin death beam. You REALLY think a mirror's going to help?

[Akihisa Yoshii]

Teo, toguro has a friggin death beam. You REALLY think a mirror's going to help?

kishin asura

Mirrors, man. They reflect anything when from cartoon land.

[Akihisa Yoshii]

Also, updated Kevin's powers with a link to the wiki page on Crash magic, which has a lot more info than what I gave on it.

[Teoinsanity]

Teo, toguro has a friggin death beam. You REALLY think a mirror's going to help?

kishin asura

As yoshi said ,it's a cartoon mirror

[thewizardguy]

> > Alright. So..... another question. > > > > Alpha's concept is creation correct? And I assume the lack of free will you mentioned was true not me misremembering anything? And I assume alpha is also omniscient as well? Meaning it knows everything there is to know about..... well, anything really. Am I correct? > > Alpha has no free will, but it's not omniscient. It knows ALMOST everything, because everything that exists was created by Alpha, including their minds and personalities, but it doesn't know everything by a long shot. True. I will admit you do have a point about alpha not having omniscience. But as it has creation-based omnipotence, can't it just CREATE it's proud ownership of said omniscience? Answer: no. Because as we both know, it would need to choose to use its power in that way. And as choice comes from free will, something alpha doesn't have. But you did say it knows ALMOST everything. Meaning it knows the pros and cons of certain actions. In the previous hell's coffee lounge on the previous roleplayer guild site, there was the battle with hate, chars died, shit went down, but then tyki showed up, pulled some bullshit that got hate instakilled. Which pissed you off enough to attempt instakilling everyone's chars via alpha. Now it may seem like I'm getting off topic. But really, I'm just providing a little background info. Otherwise what I'm about to bring up wouldn't make that much sense. That attempt pretty much provides an example of how alpha can use its power to create for destructive purposes WITHOUT going against its concept. You're a smart guy Matt. I assume you know how that can be. I'll give you a hint. It's the same reason all the dimensions are different in varying ways rather than all of them being exactly the same. And I may have taken too long with this post.

kishin asura

Actually, I retracted that statement, and it never happened. It was an act of rage, and not a part of the canon.

[Wraithblade6]

Matt, fix your avatar.

[kishin asura]

> > Alright. So..... another question. > > > > Alpha's concept is creation correct? And I assume the lack of free will you mentioned was true not me misremembering anything? And I assume alpha is also omniscient as well? Meaning it knows everything there is to know about..... well, anything really. Am I correct? > > Alpha has no free will, but it's not omniscient. It knows ALMOST everything, because everything that exists was created by Alpha, including their minds and personalities, but it doesn't know everything by a long shot. True. I will admit you do have a point about alpha not having omniscience. But as it has creation-based omnipotence, can't it just CREATE it's proud ownership of said omniscience? Answer: no. Because as we both know, it would need to choose to use its power in that way. And as choice comes from free will, something alpha doesn't have. But you did say it knows ALMOST everything. Meaning it knows the pros and cons of certain actions. In the previous hell's coffee lounge on the previous roleplayer guild site, there was the battle with hate, chars died, shit went down, but then tyki showed up, pulled some bullshit that got hate instakilled. Which pissed you off enough to attempt instakilling everyone's chars via alpha. Now it may seem like I'm getting off topic. But really, I'm just providing a little background info. Otherwise what I'm about to bring up wouldn't make that much sense. That attempt pretty much provides an example of how alpha can use its power to create for destructive purposes WITHOUT going against its concept. You're a smart guy Matt. I assume you know how that can be. I'll give you a hint. It's the same reason all the dimensions are different in varying ways rather than all of them being exactly the same. And I may have taken too long with this post.

kishin asura

Actually, I retracted that statement, and it never happened. It was an act of rage, and not a part of the canon.

thewizardguy

I know. Which is why I said you ATTEMPTED it. But enough about that. Any power, no matter what it does, will always have some sort of destructive potential. Alpha's omnipotent creation powers are no different. As that creation power is what makes alpha omnipotent, that most likely means there is no limit to what alpha can create. Going by that logic, it can create anything. Including nonexistance. Alpha's concept is creation, leaving it little to no offensive power. It can still create stuff with no real limits. Meaning as it can create the existance of something, it can also create the nonexistance of the same exact thing. This is essentially how dimensions can be so diverse, as there are dimensions that house the existance of a given object/being while the other dimensions house the nonexistance. Otherwise, you'd have a progressively infinite number of copies of the exact same dimension. Which, as there would be nothing distinguishing what exists in one dimension as opposed to another (since in each dimension, everything would exist and nothing would not exist), would be more like a singularity. This doesn't conflict with alpha's concept because in order to render something nonexistent, it has to create the nonexistance. Going back to to the whole "creation without limits" thing, it can be assumed that alpha can also create outcomes for given actions. (Gonna stray off topic and say I looked up omnipotence, and found a similar ability called omnificence, which is essentially the correct term for alpha's omnipotent creation ability. Though I'm guessing you already knew that) as there's nothing that says it can't. So yes, my statement about alpha creating failsafes, based on this logic, is correct. As the alpha can create the outcome of genocide failing. That being said, I'm sure I messed up at some point while typing this up, so I could be wrong.