So I just bought Fallout 3

[The Nexerus]

I'd prefer for Fallout 4 to be set somewhere new.

[Wayne]

@The Nexerus

I'm personally hoping Bethsoft thinks the same. Fingers crossed.

[Imperfectionist]

:) Yeah, me too, that's what I was trying to say. Apparently, though, 4 is going to be a sequel to 3, developed by Bethesda Softworks... And set in Boston, which could be cool (I thought the super-advanced Institute could make for an interesting villain when I played 3, and I didn't hate the Harkness quest...).

Do you think they (BethSoft) might use some of the changes Obsidian made for New Vegas (Hardcore mode, iron sights, the skill changes, traits, etc), or that they'll stick just to what 3 had?

[The Nexerus]

I'd hope that they'd take some of the nicer aspects of New Vegas. There's no reason at all not to have an option for iron sights, for example. As for skills and traits, remains to be seen. Not sure where my opinion would be on that.

[Imperfectionist]

Hmm. One thing I think New Vegas had, when compared to 3, is realism. Or, at least, somewhat more of an illusion of realism... The lack of people notwithstanding (I always imagined the world to have a lot more people in it than it did... :( Did the same thing for Skyrim. How could there be over a hundred bandits in a single Hold and less than half that in non-hostile inhabitants? Imagination is all we non-modders have).

Anyway, BethSoft might not have the same grasp of realism, or their setting might not be as conducive to that realism as the Mojave was (seeing as the whole point about the Mojave was that House deflected most of the bombs, and there wasn't near as much damage as there could have been)... So, in the question of whether the Commonwealth is more similar to the Mojave or to the Capital Wasteland, I'm going to hazard a guess and say the Capital. Less food, less access to clean water (in NV there was an entirely pure lake!), eating Salisbury Steak and Sugar Bombs instead of Brahman Wellington, Bighorner Steaks and Prickly Pears...

[The Nexerus]

Would Project Purity have affected the Commonwealth at all?

[Imperfectionist]

Definitely not, there're a few hundred miles between the Potomac Bay and Massachusetts... Indirectly, though, I could see the idea coming into play, being adapted by the Institute for some purpose or another.

:) I know it's kind of out there, but I really hope the PC in 4 is a super-advanced android like Harkness... I mean, apparently they're so good they're indistinguishable from flesh-and-blood humans, even to themselves. It could be pretty cool.

[The Nexerus]

Holy shit the main questline is so short

[Cpt Toellner]

The midwest needs some Fallout action.

[Jster]

Cpt Toellner said
The midwest needs some Fallout action.

While it would most likely end up in Chicago I would love to play a Midwest Fallout.

Particularly Ohio. But that's my bias.

[Cpt Toellner]

Jster said
While it would most likely end up in Chicago I would love to play a Midwest Fallout.Particularly Ohio. But that's my bias.

Nah man, middle of nowhere Wisconsin.

[Jster]

Cpt Toellner said
Nah man, middle of nowhere Wisconsin.

But imagine a story centered on the conflict of two mega cities. Cleveland and Detroit.

Neither was destroyed in the war because no one deemed them important enough to destroy.

[Cpt Toellner]

Jster said
But imagine a story centered on the conflict of two mega cities. Cleveland and Detroit.Neither was destroyed in the war because no one deemed them important enough to destroy.

I would play anything that gave me a chance to sack Detroit.

[Jster]

Cpt Toellner said
I would play anything that gave me a chance to sack Detroit.

Why aren't you in the NFL then?

[Imperfectionist]

The Nexerus said
Holy shit the main questline is so short

Do you have the add-ons (or GOTY edition)? Cause yeah, without them the game can feel a little... Incomplete. Broken Steel especially extends the main quest quite a bit, and the others give you access to some very cool stuff.

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And, well, there was a Fallout game set in the Midwest (including Chicago, but also St. Louis and several other Midwest cities and areas) called Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel (PC, 2001), but it wasn't quite the same as Fallout and Fallout 2... Not as much an RPG, much more an RTS-ish tactical combat game. AND BethSoft has declared it mostly non-canon, because it contradicts elements from the original two games.

Granted, I declare Fallout 3 mostly non-canon on similar grounds, but that's neither here nor there.

EDIT: Oh, and Fallout 3 had Pittsburgh in it (called "The Pitt")... Does that count?

[Cpt Toellner]

Imperfectionist said
Do you have the add-ons (or GOTY edition)? Cause yeah, without them the game can feel a little... Incomplete. Broken Steel especially.And, well, there a Fallout game set in the Midwest (including Chicago, but also St. Louis and several other Midwest cities and areas) called Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel (PC, 2001), but it wasn't quite the same as Fallout and Fallout 2... Not as much an RPG, much more an RTS-ish tactical combat game. AND BethSoft has declared it mostly non-canon, because it contradicts elements from the original two games.Granted, I declare Fallout 3 mostly non-canon on similar grounds, but that's neither here nor there.EDIT: Oh, and Fallout 3 had Pittsburgh in it (called "The Pitt")... Does that count?

I saw some stuff about Tactics, of all the Wisconsin cities they choose Appleton?

Fuckers.

[Imperfectionist]

:P Better than nothing, though, right? I mean, there's never been a Fallout game in the Northeast (until 4), nor the Southeast (where I live). The best we Southerners have is Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel (not to be confused with Fallout Tactics, Xbox/Ps2, 2004), which is set in Texas... Nothing against Texas, but it ain't East of the Mississippi.

EDIT: Plus, BoS is also mostly non-canon, AND it sucks worse than Tactics.

[Cpt Toellner]

Imperfectionist said
:P Better than nothing, though, right? I mean, there's never been a Fallout game in the Northeast (until 4), nor the Southeast (where I live). The best we Southerners have is Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel (not to be confused with Fallout Tactics, Xbox/Ps2, 2004), which is set in ... Nothing against Texas, but it ain't East of the Mississippi.

Texas already looks like a Fallout Game, just live the dream.