Xbox One

[Bell]

I'm considering getting an Xbox One, and I've decided to ask for people's experiences with it first. Now... here's some rules here.

Firstly I don't want to hear from PS4 and PC fanboys and fangirls who haven't even touched the console and just want to come in here and talk crap about it. If you don't have first hand experience with it, don't bother posting anything.

Second, I don't want to hear the crap about the Kinect watching you and all that.

I'm not looking for people to come in here and hate on Microsoft's decisions either. What I want to know is, is the Xbox One worth buying? If you can afford the price is it worth it?

For the record I'm really, really interested in Project Spark...

[Pokerface]

Hi there, pokerface here.

As an xbox gamer girl, I have a standard xbox 360 with my other half and from what I've heard from people that has got the new xbox one, it's possibly not worth buying at the price now because it's still under development and there arn't that many games out for it now where as the 360 it has tons of games.

So me and my partner are still happy with xbox 360 now and wait till it goes down in price?

:)

Normally don't ever come in this part of a site but thought I would today :)

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[Revans Exile]

I have the one. I got it day one. I don't use it much for gaming at the moment because I am extremely picky about the games I buy. I use it mostly as a bluray player if you want to watch movies on it you have three options.
1. Shout at the kinect.
2. Use the controller
3. Buy the media remote.

They are coming out or it is already out (not sure since I don't need it) with a version of the One that doesn't have a kinect.

For the moment if you want to log on automatically you have to have kinect set up to recognize you. I don't use kinect for anything so I have to manually log on every time.

If you log into your account before starting a game back up (even after several days) you will start exactly where you left off at. In the middle of a fight and quit that is where you will be when you start it up again.

If you don't log into your account before starting a game back up you will be forced to log in and you will start from when you last saved the game.

At the beginning of June they gave away Halo Spartan Assault and some game with the name Max in it for free if you have a gold account. You can keep those games for free as long as you have an active gold account. As soon as your gold account expires you have to pay for them.

Halo Spartan Assault I had on my Windows 8 PC and on the One it let me pick up where I left off on the PC.

[Keyguyperson]

I would buy a PC instead, you get a lot more power (sometimes for less) if you can take the time to figure out what you need. I managed to get my computer for $750, and it is infinitely more powerful than an Xbox 1. Of course, if you build it yourself, then you could get a PC of equal power to the Xbox 1 for a lower price. PC exclusives (like EVERY 4X EVER), multi-platform games, and even mere console ports usually have better graphics coded into them than console games do. Why? Because you can change a PC, PC graphics can be as insane as developers want, because they know the people who will buy the game can upgrade to handle it at any time. Consoles, on the other hand, cannot be upgraded. That's really why you should get a PC, because you can always upgrade it at the pace of hardware development, instead of needing to wait years for the next console to come out. If you look at this image, you'll see what I mean:



While a console may be easier to set up, you'll get new games first, and will appear to be perfectly fine, after just a few years your console will be horribly outdated. Illustrating this idea as well is this picture, comparing GTA V scenes from PC and Xbox 360.



That's why I would choose a PC over any console, because they are capable of adapting. If you already have a PC, then upgrading it for gaming isn't that hard unless it's positively ancient. It really is as simple as inserting Tab A into Slot B, then downloading the right programs. While upgrading independently is theoretically possible with a console, I suspect it would require an expert. With a PC, anyone capable of lifting the part can do it. As well as all that, the PC has entire genres of games that are nigh impossible to play with a controller, like the 4X genre. In fact, I would say that games are easier to play on the PC because the controls make quite a lot of sense, but that's probably just because I've been playing on the PC ever since my family got one. I'm pretty used to keyboard and mouse. Most indie games are also PC exclusives, and if you don't play indie games, then you;re missing out on amazing things. Along with those indie games, a lot of great classics are PC exclusive. Sure, you need to run them in comparability mode or buy them off of GOG.com, but there are some genre-defining games there, mostly in things like 4X and RTS, because as I have mentioned before, controllers are atrocious for those kinds of games.

In short, Consoles of all types are perfectly fine for short-term activities. If you want something that will last, go PC. If you really, really want a Console, I would wait for SteamOS, because seriously, Steam discounts. In the end, it's all up to you, but I honestly think PC is your best choice. You can disregard that if you want, but I cannot see a logical reason to do so.

[mdk]

I'm a PS4 player. I bought XBox 360 and played a few games, always had fun I suppose, but I just used my PlayStation more and so that's where I wound up. I think I liked the controller better; it's not for everyone, so no biggie, this is just where I landed.

I don't have an XB1 yet, but I've used one at my friend's place just a little bit. The voice controls are pretty awesome. And, for all the crap they got for their E3 presentation, the TV and social connections are actually kind of cool. It's not something you thought you wanted, but it's cool.

Game selection, controller comfort, networking, etc. are going to come down to your preferences, and what your friends are doing. I love my PS4 -- I think the technical specs are *ever so slightly* on Sony's side, but not in any really significant way that's gonna bother you during play. X-Box One looks like X-Box Fun to me, so knock yourself out, I say.

[Darog the Badger God]

mdk said
I'm a PS4 player. I bought XBox 360 and played a few games, always had fun I suppose, but I just used my PlayStation more and so that's where I wound up. I think I liked the controller better; it's not for everyone, so no biggie, this is just where I landed.I don't have an XB1 yet, but I've used one at my friend's place just a little bit. The voice controls are pretty awesome. And, for all the crap they got for their E3 presentation, the TV and social connections are actually kind of cool. It's not something you thought you wanted, but it's cool. Game selection, controller comfort, networking, etc. are going to come down to your preferences, and what your friends are doing. I love my PS4 -- I think the technical specs are *ever so slightly* on Sony's side, but not in any really significant way that's gonna bother you during play. X-Box One looks like X-Box Fun to me, so knock yourself out, I say.

Pretty much this.

I've had a few sessions on an X1, mostly playing Killer Instinct(Which is a great fighter) and it's a Gaming Console, which is cool.

To me, most of the games I play are multi-platform, so really all I can say is just buy the X1 if that's the console you want.

[Gwazi Magnum]

That's a rather limited market, one that basically narrows you down to one outcome.

Dismiss everyone who looked at Xbox One and chose not to buy it? Only listen to those who decided it was worth getting? You just guaranteed that the only people you'll listen to are those who will buy the console, so go buy it. Because that's the only advice you're going to be listening to anyways.

Also a console shitty features or decisions both also influence the console and how good it is. So you've basically not only narrowed it down to those who will say yes, but only those who say yes, you also don't have any complaints.

It's looking a lot more like you want reassurance/agreement with your choice than actual insight/advice.

So, ignoring your conditions because you'll get no actual consensus or vareity of opinions otherwise.
Don't get it, most games can be played on any other console, the graphics and performance of the games are better, and Xbox One's UI will make operating it very frustrating and tedious. Not to mention with the legal constraints you could lose your games at any moment just cause Microsoft wants more money.

Lastly? Games for console = 60$ or more each.
Steam sale = Usually 10$ and less.

Pokerface said I have a standard xbox 360

mdk said I don't have an XB1 yet,

Oh grr! You gave him advice when you don't already own and like the console yourselves!
You fiends!

[mdk]

steam sale games are usually available used at gamestop for cheaper, and then you've got a physical copy (instead of those pesky digital licenses). Like yes, steam sale offers cheap stuff, but under the same laws of capitalism that guide prices anywhere else.

[Gwazi Magnum]

Not as low as 5 or 2.50 a game.

[mdk]

Magic Magnum said
Not as low as 5 or 2.50 a game.

I used to walk into gamestop with a handful of crap I didn't want, and walk out with six pre-owned games and $40 of store credit. So.... yeah, actually, it can be better than free. But that's not the point. Point is, cheap old games are not the sole domain of the PC master race. PC-only indie titles, maybe. But even those get ported over to (well I play on PS4 but in general) consoles, and sometimes they're even free to download/play. Like Outlast. Went on steam sale for ten bucks, cost me nothing.

[Brovo]

*$2K+: PC>PS4=XBox One>Wii-U.
$1K+: PC>PS4=XBox One>Wii-U.
$500: PS4=XBox One>Wii-U>PC.
$250-: Wii-U>PS4=XBox One>PC.

Technical Specs: The greater the budget you have, the greater the things a PC can do in comparison to the three console options. At $1,000 or more, consider a PC. At less than $800, take a console. It's simply going to be superior to any PC you can pick up due to the hardware being streamlined for that task, whereas a PC needs to be able to do a lot of things, not just gaming, so hardware is not streamlined for that.

Between the PS4 and XBox One, the PS4 has superior hardware, but not by any significant margin. I'd tend to edge it out for the PS4 though simply by virtue of the fact that the PS4 can do 1080P and stream that to appropriately configured handheld devices so long as your wireless router is powerful enough to handle it, meaning you can play 1080P games anywhere in your house. Whereas the XBox One struggles to output 720P. In comparison, the XBox 360 was also capable of 1080P, so was the PS3. So you're going to pay more money for a downgrade in visual fidelity?... Graphically however, it is obviously superior to its previous generation cousin, and most games released on the 360 were in 720P anyway, so... Not much lost here in the immediate, but later on in its shelf life, it will be noticeable.

Then we have the Wii U. It's cute and cheap and if you really love Nintendo products such as Mario and Zelda, go nab it. The controller it has is pretty gimmicky but does the whole wireless screen thing better than Sony does. Also, if you have a family or multiple users of the TV, it's a neat feature to have that if someone wants to watch a TV show, you can just bugger off and keep playing whatever it was you were playing. Otherwise? XBox One and PS4 most blatantly and obviously overpower this little box.

Games: PC has the largest selection, and always will, but again, if you have a limited budget for hardware, you'll have a limited selection of current-gen games that will run on your machine.

However, I do have to give the PC one additional point above its competitors: Mods.

PS4 and XBox One are absolutely equal in this regard and it's entirely personal taste which one you prefer. The only note I'd keep in mind is any game that requires an online connection to play, may become irrelevant and unplayable if the servers related to that game ever shut down. So be warned.

As for Nintendo? Well, do you like Mario? Zelda? Go for it. If you don't, avoid it. Kind of how this game works.

Usability**: PC loses this category every time. If you don't understand how things work on a PC you will hit so many barriers, and the footnote above about mods? Well, good luck with that. If you take the time to learn how everything works to a rudimentary degree you're rewarded for it, but some don't want to, and some don't have the time, so. The only area the PC wins is in restrictions. If a game is heavily restricted, you just go to one of the tens of thousands of other games that aren't and play that instead. Or you play Pirates! Yarr.

XBox One and PS4 generally tie here again. Where the XBox One would ordinarily win due to its social features and TV stuff, because that is neato burrito and after a while using it would be as mundane a task as breathing, the XBox One has the stench of Microsoft's attempts to control everything about it, including extensive console-side DRM and always online policies for various games. The initial reveal of the product even had downright draconian security policies involved, several of which have been repealed over time due to vitriolic gamer rage.

Yes I know you didn't want me to mention that whole "the Kinect watches you sleep" thing, but well... It fucking watches you sleep bro! If you don't mind that though then no harm done.

I'm not sure how well the Wii U runs for user friendliness in general. I'd imagine though that if it holds to the same general line of thought that Nintendo's held to for several years now, it's probably winning the #1 spot by virtue of just letting you play a game when you put the game in the console, and not checking online to see if it's a valid copy, or downloading ten billion patches, or telling you your drivers are out of date and it needs to install more of them, and so on.

Overall: Consoles are still a fine choice and PC master race people are tards. Yes, the PC is superior in a lot of ways... When one has a budget to build a proper PC that will actually last more than six months. If one is operating on a limited budget, like, 800 bucks, or less even, a console is a superior choice, because you will get more bang for your buck at that point.

The PS4 and XBox One are both decent choices, but I'd wait for the price to drop down on the latter before going for it, since the 360 has superior visual fidelity anyway, and a lot of games are being released for both the One and 360, there's no rhyme or reason to grab the XBox One just yet.

The Wii U is the Wii U. It's Nintendo. Love them or hate them all the same it's the same damn routine for the past 20-30 years. Totally up to you if you jump for it or don't.

*All arranged by budget. Ignoring personal preferences or favourites, and focusing exclusively on technical performance, and general selection of hardware extensions, customer support, game selection and variety, etc.

**User friendliness, in general. How easy is it to just pick up a game and play? Restrictions on the console, games, and other such things.

[Gwazi Magnum]

mdk said I used to walk into gamestop with a handful of crap I didn't want, and walk out with six pre-owned games and $40 of store credit. So.... yeah, actually, it can be better than free. But that's not the point. Point is, cheap old games are not the sole domain of the PC master race. PC-only indie titles, maybe. But even those get ported over to (well I play on PS4 but in general) consoles, and sometimes they're even free to download/play. Like Outlast. Went on steam sale for ten bucks, cost me nothing.

Maybe it's area based.

The Gamestop's in my area you're lucky to walk out with more than 5$ per traded in game.
And any game you can get comparable to a steam sale price is usually really old, or simply wasn't that good of a game.

[PrimezTime]

Magic Magnum said
Not as low as 5 or 2.50 a game.

Depends how old and how popular your trade ins are.

[Disciple Cain]

The Xbox One and PS4 overpowering the Wii U, in my opinion, has jack dick to say about it's gaming capabilities. I was on the testing team from before they called it the One (which we all fucking groaned at), and can tell you that, through all that time and the launch titles we saw go through... I actually can't remember if the One actually has any fucking games. And the PS4. Has Sony released any games for that yet?

I mean, Nintendo really likes their first party products and so do I. Maybe that's why I can never remember what games the other two systems have. If they do have any. None of the games felt memorable. The ones that did fucking sucked.

Don't get me wrong, Killer Instinct was memorable, but I already own it on the SNES, and the sort-of-free-to-play gimmick they're rolling with just kind of pisses me off. Oh and Spinal wasn't out at launch. What the fuck is that about.

Personally I'd go Wii U or PC. Or both. Because I like to be able to just play my fucking games, and if I want to watch DVDs I'll use my damn disc drive. Oh and I can actually think of a number of Nintendo games I'd love to play with friends, whereas I can't think of any games at all for the PS4 or Xbone. But that's just me.

[Darog the Badger God]

Disciple Cain said
The Xbox One and PS4 overpowering the Wii U, in my opinion, has jack dick to say about it's gaming capabilities. I was on the testing team from before they called it the One (which we all fucking groaned at), and can tell you that, through all that time and the launch titles we saw go through... I actually can't remember if the One actually has any fucking games. And the PS4. Has Sony released any games for that yet?I mean, Nintendo really likes their first party products and so do I. Maybe that's why I can never remember what games the other two systems have. If they do have any. None of the games felt memorable. The ones that did fucking sucked. Don't get me wrong, Killer Instinct was memorable, but I already own it on the SNES, and the sort-of-free-to-play gimmick they're rolling with just kind of pisses me off. Oh and Spinal wasn't out at launch. What the fuck is that about. Personally I'd go Wii U or PC. Or both. Because I like to be able to just play my fucking games, and if I want to watch DVDs I'll use my damn disc drive. Oh and I can actually think of a number of Nintendo games I'd love to play with friends, whereas I can't think of any games at all for the PS4 or Xbone. But that's just me.

What are you even talking about? I understand your preference, I truly do, but no games for PS4 or the Xbox One? have you been living under a rock? there are games out for them. No Launch is perfect, if that's what you mean, even the Wii-U's launch was just as bad.

[Disciple Cain]

It's called being facetious. Titanfall is a nice game and all, but it won't push a console to me for how expensive the console itself is. Dead Rising 3 is also fun, but again, I wouldn't buy a console for it. I thought I made it really, really transparent and obvious that I was just being a punk about Sony and MS. Guess the... joke is on you???

I just can't think of a lot of games I would start playing with all my friends at game night. Anything From the console we'd all just usually play on PC. GTA V is also grameat but, again, PC MASTER RACE and all that. The idea is that if there are enough games appealing to you on a console, get that console. If you aren't buying more than maybe three or four games, you really should just get a cheap gaming PC and get all your games cheaper with far more functionality.

[Darog the Badger God]

Disciple Cain said
It's called being facetious. Titanfall is a nice game and all, but it won't push a console to me for how expensive the console itself is. Dead Rising 3 is also fun, but again, I wouldn't buy a console for it. I thought I made it really, really transparent and obvious that I was just being a punk about Sony and MS. Guess the... joke is on you???I just can't think of a lot of games I would start playing with all my friends at game night. Anything From the console we'd all just usually play on PC. GTA V is also grameat but, again, PC MASTER RACE and all that. The idea is that if there are enough games appealing to you on a console, get that console. If you aren't buying more than maybe three or four games, you really should just get a cheap gaming PC and get all your games cheaper with far more functionality.

Oh, okay, now that makes more sense lol. I do agree with on Titanfall and Dead Rising 3, both of those games did not appeal to me in the slightest. I personally prefer single player games, because, well, I love them. I keep fighting games such as Tekken, Street Fighter and shit for friends and online play because they aren't nearly as bad as CoD or Battlefield(to a lesser extent). Also, I had a cheap gaming PC before, and lolno, they are fuckin worse than a laptop for playing games, if you get one prebuilt that is. Also, I'm confused at the three or four games sentence, do you mean if you aren't buying three or four games a month or so? or do you mean if you the library doesn't consist of that many games? Because, if it's the former, some games aren't cheap, so it makes it harder to do that a month lol.

on a more personal level, the whole "PC MASTER RACE" Bullshit is just as bad as the Console fanboyism.