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Hey outcast I've been pretty busy this week but is it to late to send my orders in?
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Sorry, the deadline has passed, and the update is already mostly written up.
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It's all good in the hood dude, my apologies for not getting them in sooner
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solamelike said
So, you are saying that because Austria declared war, it means that at least one of you will get more powerful which, subsequently, is what I want to avoid?


Precisely. You should have (still can) gone neutral and tried to arbitrate.
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Why would becoming neutral stop one of you from being more powerful?
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Any victory Austria has while you help it will be much more crushing (read: empowering) than one where you don't help. Neutral, you can threaten either side with intervention if the peace is too lopsided.
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Staying neutral would have meant that you would have sat out the war, watching both threats destroy each other. And in the end, both of your potential threats would have been (regardless of who won) severely weakened, putting you in a good position against them.

War ain't always the best choice. I know it's probably fun, but you gotta weigh things out before committing to a war.
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If France were to express in an IC way a change in opinion, Prussia could tell Spain to leave Andorra so you could peace without issue.
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Pepperm1nts said
War ain't always the best choice. I know it's probably fun, but you gotta weigh things out before committing to a war


I really wanted peace and to stay neutral.
Certain factors came in though.
Belgium was counting on me for help, and I felt that the attack was sudden and a little warning would have been nice..
I have allies who kept prodding me to help.
and Prussia has been really hostile. IC.
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Prussia was an army with a country, of course they're hostile :P

I do agree the actions of other people put France in a tricky position. I mean, how do you sit through Belgium being taken over? It only makes sense that France would step in somehow.

But to be fair, I'm not that well informed on IC matters. I know a few things, but I came in kinda late into this so I don't know enough to form a proper opinion on the matter.
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solamelike said
I really wanted peace and to stay neutral.Certain factors came in though.Belgium was counting on me for help, and I felt that the attack was sudden and a little warning would have been nice..I have allies who kept prodding me to help.and Prussia has been really hostile. IC.


I get where you are coming from.

You know, I did warn you about a week in advance.

As far as hostility, it was more fear than hostility. Germany was more afraid of France than France was of Germany. Napoleonic memories are still fresh in this time period.
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Pepperm1nts said
Prussia was an army with a country, of course they're hostile :PI do agree the actions of other people put France in a tricky position. I mean, how do you sit through Belgium being taken over? It only makes sense that France would step in somehow.But to be fair, I'm not that well informed on IC matters. I know a few things, but I came in kinda late into this so I don't know enough to form a proper opinion on the matter.


I would sum it up as
*Something happens in the world IC*
Prussia Response = *Talk about stuff happening* "Oh and before I finish. FUCK YOU FRANCE!"
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solamelike said
I would sum it up as *Something happens in the world IC*Prussia Response = *Talk about stuff happening* "Oh and before I finish. FUCK YOU FRANCE!"


"As far as hostility, it was more fear than hostility. Germany was more afraid of France than France was of Germany. Napoleonic memories are still fresh in this time period."
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So Boerd said
I get where you are coming from.You know, I did warn you about a week in advance


"Hey im going to give Belgium to the Netherlands."
I didn't think that meant steamrolling over there!

So Boerd said
.As far as hostility, it was more fear than hostility. Germany was more afraid of France than France was of Germany. Napoleonic memories are still fresh in this time period.


Don't worry about it I understand why they where, but it would have been nice if some recognition of me being a little nicer was taken.
I did give German land back for instance.

Also I think OOC is affecting my IC.
Which isn't a good thing but I cant help it :(

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"As far as hostility, it was more fear than hostility. Germany was more afraid of France than France was of Germany. Napoleonic memories are still fresh in this time period."


I got ninja posted
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It's not weird for Germans to be wary of France. It's to be expected, honestly.

Plus, if Prussia is trying to unite Germans, it makes sense for it to give Germans a common enemy. If saying 'Fuck you France' enough gets the German people riled up and together, why not?
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solamelike said
"Hey im going to give Belgium to the Netherlands."I didn't think that meant steamrolling over there! Don't worry about it I understand why they where, but it would have been nice if some recognition of me being a little nicer was taken.I did give German land back for instance. Also I think OOC is affecting my IC.Which isn't a good thing but I cant help it


We still had to be worried. Austria was looking like you guys were buddies all of a sudden and that makes us more scared.

In Re Belgium, Belgium wasn't going to go peacefully. I would have done it peacefully if I could.

In re OOC: Don't worry, happens to the best of us.
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So Boerd said
In Re Belgium, Belgium wasn't going to go peacefully. I would have done it peacefully if I could.


They wouldn't of given up if you said "Netherlands and Prussia will murder you if you don't?"
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solamelike said
They wouldn't of given up if you said "Netherlands and Prussia will murder you if you don't?"


Tried that. Nope.
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So Boerd said
Tried that. Nope.


*Shrug* ah well
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solamelike said
*Shrug* ah well


So are you going to arbitrate?
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