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A treaty...?
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This is an unfortunate (and somewhat disappointing) turn of events.
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Treachery cuts both ways. Don't worry Greece, we want you back.
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So Boerd said
Treachery cuts both ways. Don't worry Greece, we want you back.


Although there are a couple thousand dead Italians that they have to answer for. :l
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Although there are a couple thousand dead Italians that they have to answer for. :l


Compensation will be demanded.
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Treachery cuts both ways.

Weirdly enough, Greece approached us after he announced his desire to switch sides.
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I'm in the IRC.
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Well, that's anti-climactic.

Seems like the French are being pretty soft here. I mean, I'm not sure they should have joined the war to begin with, but if you're this far in you might as well commit.
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Ampharos, are you now willing to yield, or must we push this further than necessary?
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Ampharos, are you now willing to yield, or must we push this further than necessary?

I know when I'm beaten. I suppose we should open up dialogue?
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Pepperm1nts said
Well, that's anti-climactic. Seems like the French are being pretty soft here. I mean, I'm not sure they should have joined the war to begin with, but if you're this far in you might as well commit.


This far in?
Nothing has happened to the French so far.
Except some ships sank and I lost land I already gave away.
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Ampharos said
I know when I'm beaten. I suppose we should open up dialogue?


Yes, we should.
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Well, that's anti-climactic. Seems like the French are being pretty soft here. I mean, I'm not sure they should have joined the war to begin with, but if you're this far in you might as well commit.

It's pretty logical that they'd want to join this war.

This war is more or less a combination of the Austro-Italian War, the Austro-Prussian War, and the Franco-Prussian War. Austria-France and Prussia-Italy are the logical alliances for an 1861 game unless any of them have particularly unorthodox or alternative ambitions.

At least, that's what makes sense from a pragmatic point of view. Austria and France both have vested interest in preventing from Germany from being established.
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This far in?Nothing has happened to the French so far.


Just seems a little weak to let them have Belgium and Alsace-Lorraine. Trying for peace is fine, it's agreeing to their demands so easily that seems a little off. You'd think France would feel a little stronger about letting both Belgium and Alsace-Lorraine go.

EDIT: Especially considering France is still in a good position.
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Just seems a little weak to let them have Belgium and Alsace-Lorraine. Trying for peace is fine, it's agreeing to their demands so easily that seems a little off. You'd think France would feel a little stronger about letting both Belgium and Alsace-Lorraine go.


They'd given away AL before the war even started.

Edit: It was Austrian land when the war started.
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Pepperm1nts said
Just seems a little weak to let them have Belgium and Alsace-Lorraine. Trying for peace is fine, it's agreeing to their demands so easily that seems a little off. You'd think France would feel a little stronger about letting both Belgium and Alsace-Lorraine go.


I already gave them Alsace-Lorraine long before this war.
You have a point about Belgium though.
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Yes, we should.

Yeah. I'll let you do the honors of starting a private since I imagine you have something in mind here. Just do me a favor and add Outcast to the conversation and presumably anyone who has vested interest in our negotiations.
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Notice my edit in my previous post. That's why I feel it's so off. France is still strong, yet they agree to their demands like they're about to be destroyed.
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Pepperm1nts said
Just seems a little weak to let them have Belgium and Alsace-Lorraine. Trying for peace is fine, it's agreeing to their demands so easily that seems a little off. You'd think France would feel a little stronger about letting both Belgium and Alsace-Lorraine go.


King William III doesn't necessarily want all of Belgium. There's a reason the treaty with France specifically mentions that the status of Wallonia is pending.
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Dangit Amph forgot to add OC. Whatevs, we will run the treaty by him before posting.
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