[OOC] Phoenix Wing (A Fairy Tail RP-Always Open, Open)

[Joshua Tamashii]

sighs Joshua, the only way the lacrima could be disabled is by someone with the Phoenix wing guild mark. And I would like to know how "death" knew about them.

@Caits

Fine, I'll edit that out

[Burthstone]

Jeez, such jerkness. Also, I think I'll post as just Mithera real quick then do a full post once more people important to my reactions do stuff.

[MarshiestMallow]

I can see im going to have to have a good long post for naster jamie when I do eventually post Who do I need? Ah. Zarkun.

[MarshiestMallow]

<Snipped quote by Caits> Fine, I'll edit that out

@Joshua Tamashii

No it's fine don't worr

[Demon Shinobi]

Dude... I really want zero to be able to lay the smackdown on one of Joshua's characters xD the villains of course not right now of course, but at some point Ya know?

[Zeroth]

*Possible Spoiler Warning* Before anyone complains about War, Devil-Slayer have been show to be able to control the attacks of another mages, as long as those attacks are of the same element. Also, Silver was shown to be borderline immune to all Ice-based attacks. Grey only beat him after having a metal ball in one of his attacks, though the ice still did nothing, while the ball did all the work. Also, may I point out that this is the magic that gave a guy the ability to freeze fire? And the ice was immune to Natsu's flames. EDIT: Albeit, I'm using Fire but still, you get the point I'm try to make.

@Joshua Tamashii

Where were they shown to control other Mages' spells? I remember Silver being immune, but all slayers are immune to non-slayer elements save for special cases like that time eating different colored flames made Natsu sick because of the taste. If Gray had fought an Ice Dragon or Ice God Slayer they'd have done the same thing, just eating or withstanding his ice. Those other two points don't point to a specific trait of the magic itself, but Silver's strength as a mage. Silver was also alive in the first place because of another point, and for all we know his power could have been boosted by that. If it was Gildarts with Fire Dragon Slayer magic instead of Natsu, I'm betting he'd be able to do similar feats. Just because it shows up later in the manga, I don't think that puts Devil Slaying immediately above the other Slayer types. In fact it actually seems weaker on the whole because of the enemy they were fighting at the time: Dragon Slayer magic was made to fight Dragons. When Dragons actually showed up, no one but the Slayers could even hurt them--and even the slayers couldn't completely defeat them. This is a case of the Dragons being outright invincible save to one thing, but just having that thing doesn't mean they die, it just means that you can now inflict damage to them. If your strength isn't on par with theirs, having the Slayer magic won't help. Devil Slayer magic, on the other hand, was made to fight the Etherious. And those demons were being defeated by non-Devil Slayers to begin with. In this case, it's more like Kryptonite and Superman--if you're strong enough, you can beat him without Kryptonite. Having Kryptonite just makes it easier. Or like Pokemon type advantages. A Devil Slayer is super effective, but a normal mage who's outright strong enough can still beat the demon. That says, to me, (along with later events where things regarding dragons happen and the reactions the demons show to them) that Devils are lesser than Dragons. And it's already been seen that, unless the Dragon Slayer uses a special method or has much stronger base stats, so to speak, that God Slayer magic is inherently superior. Not to start a huge fight or anything, that's just my stance on it.

[Joshua Tamashii]

<Snipped quote by Joshua Tamashii> No it's fine don't worr

@Caits

Too late. Save it for another day maybe. Would be more fun, ya know

<Snipped quote by Joshua Tamashii> Where were they shown to control other Mages' spells? I remember Silver being immune, but all slayers are immune to non-slayer elements save for special cases like that time eating different colored flames made Natsu sick because of the taste. If Gray had fought an Ice Dragon or Ice God Slayer they'd have done the same thing, just eating or withstanding his ice. Those other two points don't point to a specific trait of the magic itself, but Silver's strength as a mage. Silver was also alive in the first place because of another point, and for all we know his power could have been boosted by that. If it was Gildarts with Fire Dragon Slayer magic instead of Natsu, I'm betting he'd be able to do similar feats. Just because it shows up later in the manga, I don't think that puts Devil Slaying immediately above the other Slayer types. In fact it actually seems weaker on the whole because of the enemy they were fighting at the time: Dragon Slayer magic was made to fight Dragons. When Dragons actually showed up, no one but the Slayers could even hurt them--and even the slayers couldn't completely defeat them. This is a case of the Dragons being outright invincible save to one thing, but just having that thing doesn't mean they die, it just means that you can now inflict damage to them. If your strength isn't on par with theirs, having the Slayer magic won't help. Devil Slayer magic, on the other hand, was made to fight the Etherious. And those demons were being defeated by non-Devil Slayers to begin with. In this case, it's more like Kryptonite and Superman--if you're strong enough, you can beat him without Kryptonite. Having Kryptonite just makes it easier. Or like Pokemon type advantages. A Devil Slayer is super effective, but a normal mage who's outright strong enough can still beat the demon. That says, to me, (along with later events where things regarding dragons happen and the reactions the demons show to them) that Devils are lesser than Dragons. And it's already been seen that, unless the Dragon Slayer uses a special method or has much stronger base stats, so to speak, that God Slayer magic is inherently superior. Not to start a huge fight or anything, that's just my stance on it.

@Zeroth

You sir, have some required reading: http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Ice_Devil_Slayer_Magic Second paragraph, second sentence.

[MarshiestMallow]

Alright. I only said something cause I felt like I mentioned it sone where

[YipeeXD]

"somewhat" is a keyword i think... :/ I would imagine somewhat... being... reducing the effectiveness... not making an attack miss...

[Zeroth]

You sir, have some required reading: http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Ice_Devil_Slayer_Magic Second paragraph, second sentence.

@Joshua Tamashii

"Able to somewhat control the ice of others" seems to me like it's questionable. I'm re-reading the chapter that was referenced, but I'm inclined to believe that it's only because Gray's ice magic is a normal type, not a Slayer type. Phantom Lord's fire mage, Totomaru, had an ability to control other types of flames too, and was able to use it on Natsu's Dragon Slayer flame, but afterwards Natsu wrested control back. No doubt a Devil Slayer equivalent of that ability would be stronger, but Slayer elements have some sort of different quality to them. If Gray had been an Ice Slayer of some sort I'm betting Silver wouldn't be able to take his ice from him without a special method like Natsu's special method of eating God flames. Edit: And after re-reading the chapter that was referenced, I think this is entirely incorrect on the Wiki's part. Nothing in that chapter showed Silver taking control of Gray's ice. He ate some of Gray's attacks and then spat more ice back at him, the same way Natsu has done to other flame mages--but only with a special method to another Slayer. The only instance where he might have "controlled" one of Gray's attacks is when Gray tried to channel his own Slayer ice back at him, and Silver was unaffected. This doesn't point to him controlling Gray's attack, but his own magic. If that's the case, then reversing War's own magic will indeed not work, but it doesn't mean War can seize control of anyone else's magic of the same/similar element.

[YipeeXD]

Fun fact of the week

this is all pointless... because non of Joshua's villains have CS's yet

[Joshua Tamashii]

<Snipped quote by Joshua Tamashii> "Able to somewhat control the ice of others" seems to me like it's questionable. I'm re-reading the chapter that was referenced, but I'm inclined to believe that it's only because Gray's ice magic is a normal type, not a Slayer type. Phantom Lord's fire mage, Totomaru, had an ability to control other types of flames too, and was able to use it on Natsu's Dragon Slayer flame, but afterwards Natsu wrested control back. No doubt a Devil Slayer equivalent of that ability would be stronger, but Slayer elements have some sort of different quality to them. If Gray had been an Ice Slayer of some sort I'm betting Silver wouldn't be able to take his ice from him without a special method like Natsu's special method of eating God flames.

@Zeroth

Very possible. Though, I still see Devil-Slayer as more powerful then God-Slayer, since the feats a single Devil-Slayer has pulled off all out due to combined feats of three God-Slayers.

Fun fact of the week

this is all pointless... because non of Joshua's villains have CS's yet

@YipeeXD

Actually, they do. Only Caits is privy to them though.

[MarshiestMallow]

Um. I'm sure I approved them. In a PM. Rigjt, were the some of the ones you've shown me Joshua?

[Joshua Tamashii]

Um. I'm sure I approved them. In a PM. Rigjt, were the some of the ones you've shown me Joshua?

@Caits

Yep, over PMs

[Zeroth]

Very possible. Though, I still see Devil-Slayer as more powerful then God-Slayer, since the feats a single Devil-Slayer has pulled off all out due to combined feats of three God-Slayers.

@Joshua Tamashii

Again, that points more to the level of the mages themselves than the magic being used. Orca and Chelia are God Slayers, but were pretty much chumps compared to other mages in terms of things like the amount of magic power they had, their fighting ability and experience, and so on and so forth. Silver being able to freeze a landscape instantly and put Natsu on ice tells me he's a very strong mage, not that his style of magic is inherently superior. If you gave the gun mages' little girl Natsu's magic, she'd probably be able to light candles and make fireworks. If you gave Gildarts Natsu's magic, he'd probably burn everything within fifty miles to ashes just by sneezing. Also, see the edit I made to my last post here for more on the chapter where Silver's magic is referenced.

[YipeeXD]

*slams bag of oranges down* its not official! NOT GOD DAMN OFFICIAL ENOUGH!!!! *starts to hurl oranges*

[MarshiestMallow]

catches orange and peels it Yum

[YipeeXD]

*all the oranges catch fire*

[Joshua Tamashii]

<Snipped quote by Joshua Tamashii> Again, that points more to the level of the mages themselves than the magic being used. Orca and Chelia are God Slayers, but were pretty much chumps compared to other mages in terms of things like the amount of magic power they had, their fighting ability and experience, and so on and so forth. Silver being able to freeze a landscape instantly and put Natsu on ice tells me he's a very strong mage, not that his style of magic is inherently superior. If you gave the gun mages' little girl Natsu's magic, she'd probably be able to light candles and make fireworks. If you gave Gildarts Natsu's magic, he'd probably burn everything within fifty miles to ashes just by sneezing. Also, see the edit I made to my last post here for more on the chapter where Silver's magic is referenced.

@Zeroth

Fair enough. You are likely right, but I might as well put this out now then: All your opponents are, minimum, S-Rank mages. Rutger is B-rank. Probably the only one capable of actually fighting these four is Jamie, and even then, she would have to use her magic wisely.

[Zeroth]

Fair enough. You are likely right, but I might as well put this out now then: All your opponents are, minimum, S-Rank mages. Rutger is B-rank. Probably the only one capable of actually fighting these four is Jamie, and even then, she would have to use her magic wisely.

@Joshua Tamashii

Right, that wasn't the part I had any issue with. Again, didn't mean to start an argument, sorry. Now let's see how far Rutger can get with a little creativity. *pops knuckles*