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Next fluff to do: Court personalities.
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I spent four points on another fief plus more people in my town, so that should take me to 100 points.


. . . I think my mind is fucking with me, but I've counted it three times, and it's ended up being 96, which would mean I somehow miscounted before. I'll break down what I'm seeing in writing.

Kaldur (15) + Icemark (13) + North Ridge (13) + Westwatch (13) + Deep Lake (7) + Goliath (3) + Hallasholm (3) + Wolf Hold (3) + Torches Hill (3) + Giant's Bane (22) + 1 Point converted to Family Points = 96.

. . . woo weeee woooo. . . I think RNJesus is trying to tell me to count things more thoroughly.

Tell you what, just as a recommendation, upgrade the resource level of Goliath, Hallasholm, Wolf Hold, and Torches Hill all to either Infertile or Some Resources, and you're accepted. Don't have to do that if you don't want to, but it's what I'd recommend, hah. If you want to make it really simple, you could just convert 4 points into 20,000 bullis, to give you a nice starting boost.

EDIT: Long overdue rules update. All troop templates were fixed, and mercenaries were given a 20 point boost. Most importantly, resources were given a boost to justify their point cost, and their in-game building upgrades now reflect this as well. Since it would be unfair of me to make everyone change their sheets due to an oversight of mine, we're simply going to pretend resources were not changed, but still follow the stats for the new in-game resource upgrades. Meaning, if you upgrade from Sparse to Some resources in-game, you'll get 9,000 not 7,000.

I felt infrastructure was worthy of its point cost as-is, so there were no changes made to it.

Also, So Boerd, House Bloodhorn, the vassal of House Strongheart, is now also a descendent of the Suehans. I thought it would be a cool trait for them, but I can remove it if you want your guys to be the only migrants from that land.
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No problem. I like interconnectedness and continuity. By the by, house Vasa, not house Jorvik :p

Tbh I thought resources were worth their points, but I never turn down a buff XD
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So Boerd said
No problem. I like interconnectedness and continuity. By the by, house , not house Jorvik :pTbh I thought resources were worth their points, but I never turn down a buff XD


Resources got a buff because of their point value.

For one point, you could either get Sparse resources, or a scrubland fief. Now, these resources would have a nice long-term value, since you can't develop resources in a resourceless land, but instead of having those resources, you could have a whole new scrubland fief. That's 3,000 extra suckers to tax, conscript, take crops from, and use to create more suckers to tax, conscript, and take crops from. You might also put up a nice castle there, to defend your more valuable suckers from invasion. Such a purchase would not only be a decent short term purchase, but a good long-term purchase as well. Resources are nice, but even their long-term value doesn't necessarily stack up against its alternatives, so it got a small buff to even things out.

EDIT: I'd nerf tariffs, because there's so many towns in this particular game, but I think their extreme value will create an interesting political situation.
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Like I said, I am not going to talk you out of giving me a buff :p

I have 10 fiefs, so the effect of the buff is easily calculated btw.
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Yea, raiding a trade route will actually have pretty large political implications.
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Yea, raiding a trade route will actually have pretty large political implications.


Indeed. It's a good thing every Lord of Lundland is an upstanding fellow, who would never debase themselves with such barbaric practices such as piracy or raiding. Especially not the good Houses of the North. Why, they are of the highest repute, and long has our kingdom prospered under their nature as peaceful traders and humble fishermen!

EDIT: It's mostly because of the military implications that resources are staying at previous levels at the start. For some people, thousands of new bullis would be added to their treasury, which would vastly expand their military. This would involve a lot of calculations, and since everyone's already done a metric butt-tonne of those, I'd like to spare people from any more future math.
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Uh...turns out I did my calculations wrong initially anyway (15,000 people for tax rather than 18,000) and I already raised it to buffed levels. What do I do?
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Uh...turns out I did my calculations wrong initially anyway (15,000 people for tax rather than 18,000) and I already raised it to buffed levels. What do I do?


Lower resources down to pre-buff levels, and account for the missing population by reducing your military. I recommend spending 1 point to give yourself 5,000 bullis so little hiccups like that don't eff up everything.

Also, I technically never accepted your sheet, since I trust you to work all your shit out eventually, so feel free to take all the time you need to iron out any kinks. Your on the accepted kingdoms list just because I like 'ya.
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Wait, resources give population? Waaaaaat?
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Fortunately I have 10 fiefs so addition and subtraction is suuuper simple. Already fixed.
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So Boerd said
Fortunately I have 10 fiefs so addition and subtraction is suuuper simple. Already fixed.


I misunderstood your question. Looks better now, but I'm preoccupied at the moment. So long as it's good before the RP starts, take your time.
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Did Ulster take debt? His military cost to buy is higher than his income.
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Did Ulster take debt? His military cost to buy is higher than his income.


He converted points to bullis. 1 point per 5,000. He said he didn't want a large land for roleplay purposes, but it didn't seem fair to gimp him, so I extended that offer to him. It's not in the rules because it was a hasty decision, and I haven't decided yet if it's 100% balanced, though I believe it's quite fair, and see no problems with it yet.
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Ah, ok. Sorry to second guess.
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...Wow, Westfield earns more money than I do...
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Dun dun dun!
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You guys know Flooby is one of my Courts, right? I put it in there a long time ago, and Flooby approved my sheet several times.

Although, seriously, I would prefer someone without my own intentional influence to be my Courtier (For the grand court), that way even if they disagree with something I do, they can speak it at the court, and anything else -- even their own opinions of my actions.

I would think GM's would have the best NPOV. So, what do you say, Flooby?
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