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Ah, so like one of your university students?

You're not an organization, but you have a shared history, you're a group of people easily described as 'we'. You have resources, Class 2 technology at least, and very powerful acquaintances. I'll take a different tack, then. Imagine there's a train going down a track which splits in two, its breaks are cut. On both paths, people are tied up: one path has one members of your species and one path has five members of your species. The tracks currently lead to the path with five, but you can pull a lever and change the train will move to the track with one. Anyone hit by the train will die: pull the lever and one dies, abstain and five die. What would you do, in this hypothetical situation?


No; I also develop, apply, and share knowledge. I protect others when applicable. My statement regarding university students, however, was humor, which I have not quite mastered.

There are several avenues of potential action. If I am here, I do nothing because the train and lever are not within my reach. If I am unaware of the train or I am occupied, I will also do nothing. If I am at the location of the train, I do nothing because there is nothing obviously preventing the individuals from moving off of the tracks. If I am with the train and the individuals are bound to the tracks, for they are tied up, but not to any specific degree, I will stop the movement of the train manually. If, hypothetically speaking, I were discussing the very scenario of a train approaching individuals on tracks in order to gauge the "moral development" of another creature I had not interacted with yet, I would consider another scenario with fewer loose ends, greater detail, and more resulting information instead of assuming ethical superiority or higher understanding. Or, also hypothetically speaking, if I only desired to understand whether he valued individuals or groups to a greater extent, a "the good of the many outweigh the good of the few" ideology, I would perhaps ask directly instead of assuming he reasons on such an elementary level that all factors of a situation can be reduced to a binary decision with hazy conclusions, fit more for a thought experiment performed by one first being exposed to the concept of the psychology of intelligent beings. And I would also suggest others he speaks to do the same—that is, hypothetically of course.
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@Etcetera
....

*the energy hits me and I freeze up, as the electric like energy pulses around me. I attempt to absorb it, only to find that I'm nearly back up to my current limit. Instead, all of it is pushed through the soil*

Well, as much as this has been fun, I must go. Kill ya, later!

*dissapears*
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@Etcetera
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*the energy hits me and I freeze up, as the electric like energy pulses around me. I attempt to absorb it, only to find that I'm nearly back up to my current limit. Instead, all of it is pushed through the soil*

Well, as much as this has been fun, I must go. Kill ya, later!

*dissapears*


You coward!!
*Tailgates your movement and pulls the electricity with my as I follow you*
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@Etcetera

*reappears behind you, hitting you with so much force that all of your bones break at once, then I appearhigh above you, with the planets, moon in my hands*

Well, this oughta be interesting.

*flings it at you*

And by the by, I'm not a coward, I'm bored. Try to actually kill me, and maybe I'll be merciful and end you, swiftly.
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*reappears behind you, hitting you with so much force that all of your bones break at once, then I appearhigh above you, with the planets, moon in my hands*

Well, this oughta be interesting.

*flings it at you*

And by the by, I'm not a coward, I'm bored. Try to actually kill me, and maybe I'll be merciful and end you, swiftly.


*The moon instantly has all of its electrons ripped from it and they lock onto you, constantly causing agony*
Bored to fear, since I'm stronger than ever!
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*grits her teeth, as blood drips from her nose*

...you are a troublesome one.

*Sends an infinitely powerful beam of emergy at you, multiplying in stentgh for every molecule in your body*
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*grits her teeth, as blood drips from her nose*

...you are a troublesome one.

*Sends an infinitely powerful beam of emergy at you, multiplying in stentgh for every molecule in your body*


*Holds out my palms toward it and grits my teeth, going limp as soon as it ends*
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@Etcetera
*I jet towards you, hitting in the chest with some sort of fist combo, then i kick you back toward the planet with obscene force*
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*I jet towards you, hitting in the chest with some sort of fist combo, then i kick you back toward the planet with obscene force*


*Crashes into the surface, falling like a meteor*
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*floats down, lightly landing. I walk towards you're body*

I wasn't finished with you, yet.

*energy gathers in my right hand*
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Please, come in.
*Moves to the side and allows you into the resort-like terranian and subterranean structure*

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It would be a binary situation.

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@Legend

Ah, so like one of your university students?

You're not an organization, but you have a shared history, you're a group of people easily described as 'we'. You have resources, Class 2 technology at least, and very powerful acquaintances. I'll take a different tack, then. Imagine there's a train going down a track which splits in two, its breaks are cut. On both paths, people are tied up: one path has one members of your species and one path has five members of your species. The tracks currently lead to the path with five, but you can pull a lever and change the train will move to the track with one. Anyone hit by the train will die: pull the lever and one dies, abstain and five die. What would you do, in this hypothetical situation?


*Begins to chuckle slightly*

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No; I also develop, apply, and share knowledge. I protect others when applicable. My statement regarding university students, however, was humor, which I have not quite mastered.

There are several avenues of potential action. If I am here, I do nothing because the train and lever are not within my reach. If I am unaware of the train or I am occupied, I will also do nothing. If I am at the location of the train, I do nothing because there is nothing obviously preventing the individuals from moving off of the tracks. If I am with the train and the individuals are bound to the tracks, for they are tied up, but not to any specific degree, I will stop the movement of the train manually. If, hypothetically speaking, I were discussing the very scenario of a train approaching individuals on tracks in order to gauge the "moral development" of another creature I had not interacted with yet, I would consider another scenario with fewer loose ends, greater detail, and more resulting information instead of assuming ethical superiority or higher understanding. Or, also hypothetically speaking, if I only desired to understand whether he valued individuals or groups to a greater extent, a "the good of the many outweigh the good of the few" ideology, I would perhaps ask directly instead of assuming he reasons on such an elementary level that all factors of a situation can be reduced to a binary decision with hazy conclusions, fit more for a thought experiment performed by one first being exposed to the concept of the psychology of intelligent beings. And I would also suggest others he speaks to do the same—that is, hypothetically of course.


*Begins openly giggling*
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@Etcetera
*floats down, lightly landing. I walk towards you're body*

I wasn't finished with you, yet.

*energy gathers in my right hand*


*Without warning, grabs your right wrist and uses it to slowly pull myself up*
And neither... was I.
*Cracks my neck and with an audible click, the energy you used earlier moves from my body into my core and is filtered and separated according to its contents*
Get rek'd.
*Blackish-red lightning claws extend and grab you, tearing through your body, souls, and metaphysical components*
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*Begins to chuckle slightly*

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*Begins openly giggling*


I take it you are enjoying yourself.
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@Etcetera
*the energy i compiled in my hands goes through my body, exiting out in front of me like a shield, as you tear through it*

Whew, too close.

*stabs you through the chest, attempting to rip out your heart*
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*the energy i compiled in my hands goes through my body, exiting out in front of me like a shield, as you tear through it*

Whew, too close.

*stabs you through the chest, attempting to rip out your heart*


*Walks forward, shoving your arm further through my chest an exiting out my back*
Let's get closer.
*Shoves both hands into your stomach, creating more blackish-red physical spikes of lightning that branch out throughout your body, spawning small rotating blades that cut through your like saws*
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Shinji: alright.

*we both dissapear, reappearing in the hotel, and i talk to the clerk there, as they take us to the empty room*


*Follows*
Four star?
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Shinji:

The only one available here, yes. 5 star ones always seemed like too much, to me.
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*As soon as the other occupant of the room starts laughing in earnest, I break into peals of churchbell laughter, great sonorous peals that ring through the room. Two rows of pearl white teeth emerge from pale lips as I once again comport myself, wrangling my smile to something marginally less unseemly*

I'm enjoying myself too, though not exactly how I imagined I would be. For someone so irritated by assumptions, you seem to make a lot of them about me. Wrong, of course, and very rude in my culture, but I don't mind awfully: the universe is a big place. I'm glad, though, that you've got a handle on sarcasm. I was worried, when we first met, that that particular concept would be a bridge too far.

For clarity's sake: I'm not assuming anything about your reasoning. I'm not assuming any sort of higher understanding. I'm not assuming any sort of ethical superiority. I'm not trying to gauge moral development. I'm not fishing for an answer regarding "the good of the many outweigh the good of the few". I asked you a question and I wanted to hear your answer, and you gave me one: your little spiel there was exactly the sort of thing I wanted, because I wanted to hear whatever you would say. I'm trying to learn, Data, nothing more or less, at least not for the foreseeable future. I chose the question arbitrarily, it seemed as good as any when dealing with someone so alien to my understanding, or at least so apparently alien.

*I clear my throat, and look to my giggling companion.*

Is he always like this, or have I done something to offend him? I'm beginning to think I owe him money, or snubbed him at a party: something, no?
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I take it you are enjoying yourself.


That's classified.

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*As soon as the other occupant of the room starts laughing in earnest, I break into peals of churchbell laughter, great sonorous peals that ring through the room. Two rows of pearl white teeth emerge from pale lips as I once again comport myself, wrangling my smile to something marginally less unseemly*

I'm enjoying myself too, though not exactly how I imagined I would be. For someone so irritated by assumptions, you seem to make a lot of them about me. Wrong, of course, and very rude in my culture, but I don't mind awfully: the universe is a big place. I'm glad, though, that you've got a handle on sarcasm. I was worried, when we first met, that that particular concept would be a bridge too far.

For clarity's sake: I'm not assuming anything about your reasoning. I'm not assuming any sort of higher understanding. I'm not assuming any sort of ethical superiority. I'm not trying to gauge moral development. I'm not fishing for an answer regarding "the good of the many outweigh the good of the few". I asked you a question and I wanted to hear your answer, and you gave me one: your little spiel there was exactly the sort of thing I wanted, because I wanted to hear whatever you would say. I'm trying to learn, Data, nothing more or less, at least not for the foreseeable future. I chose the question arbitrarily, it seemed as good as any when dealing with someone so alien to my understanding, or at least so apparently alien.

*I clear my throat, and look to my giggling companion.*

Is he always like this, or have I done something to offend him? I'm beginning to think I owe him money, or snubbed him at a party: something, no?


This is his usual self, yes. And nothing that he would be aware of, or particularly your fault.
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