[OOC] Return to the Multiverse

[Kalamadea]

Anyway, Maxwell is approved, and my new sheet is up.

[rawkhawk64]

Looks good to me, Kalama. Can't wait to meet him.

[Kalamadea]

Also, I am bringing in Twinrova to occupy Cirno and Okuu as a sort of mini battle. Feel free to take over, either of you, if you feel up to it.

[Zero Hex]

Anyway, I'll be bringing in a guy that won't show up until we get out of the digital universe. He's a canon character, but can be placed in a Multiverse RP without breaking any lore at all, nothing special done, nothing. He's gonna help the newcomers get familiarized with how things work in the Multiverse. He's also skilled enough to fit, as he has killed would-be gods before. And don't think it's just Jon that's the problem. Zero, I do want you to hold back on the attempts to outright kill. Chaos was understandable (and has a habit of coming back from the dead anyway). From now on killing as well as resurrecting player characters must be approved by me since it's appearing to become a problem. I do manage to at least do OOC checks daily and manage OOC stuff, it's mainly IC that I can't do a bunch of posting daily (which is why the IC is collaboratively GM'd), so you don't have to worry about waiting too much. I realize this looks like me stacking limitations on, but it's mainly me correcting oversights with the original system.

@Kalamadea

fair enough. In my defense the thing with Chaos was discussed in the OOC and the player, grandsword, confirmed several times that yes, it was happening and he was allowing it to happen because there was nothing in particular the character could do to escape or otherwise avoid Ajax crushing him, having landed himself in that position entirely through IC reasons from both Chaos and Ajax himself.

[Kalamadea]

Yeah, that's why I didn't interfere with Chaos's death. Deadpool's was an issue I'd like to avoid from now on. I hate having to place those limits, but I feel it's necessary for something so big as PC death. Everything good now?

[Zero Hex]

The CS looks good, btw. I'd say a tad underpowered even but since he can respawn all the time anyway...also, nice to see you're taking the suggestions I posted several pages ago into consideration.

[Kalamadea]

Yup, I do try to satisfy everyone, however difficult it is. Grimjack is mainly serving to guide people in the "real" section of the Multiverse since he was born into interdimensional weirdness, and when we meet him Kalama will have paid him his fee tenfold. We're also using Cynosure as a base of operations now since it's much safer than the Void and just as good a place to enter new universes from (and should be a fun place to explore anyway what with the interdimensional weirdness it has, considering it sits at the very heart of the Multiverse). I felt Cynosure would be an excellent addition that's easy enough to weasel in. A brief description of the city. Cynosure is the nexus of all dimensions, built there as a trade hub. It rapidly became the largest trade hub in all of reality, a place that every good interdimensional merchant would try to set up shop. This also means it's the largest city in all reality, taking up an entire dimension of its own. As a result, Cynosure is essentially an infinitely large city. Buses transport people from Cynosure to any dimension that happens to intersect its own dimension, and every dimension (save for one pocket dimension that was cut off as part of a contract Grimjack took up, but this had to be artificially done). Physics behaves in very strange ways in Cynosure. Sometimes science will reign supreme, other times magic will run rampant, still other times the two will clash and nullify each other entirely. Despite this hazard, it's still much safer than the ravaging nothingness of the Void. But yeah, I realize he's a bit underpowered, but I plan to mostly focus on interaction with him, something not so common with this RP that I'd love to see more of. EDIT: Also, what Dark Samus just absorbed from Chaos is his pyromancy. Keeping to Grimjack's persona shouldn't be too hard. I have about thirty or forty issues of his comic sitting on my shelf in my collection. I highly recommend them if any of you want some new comics to read, they're very entertaining. EDIT 2: Slight screwup on the CS, I forgot the correct color of the cape and failed to notice on the image I included (it's blue, not red). Already edited.

[grandsword]

Hmm..now I feel like posting up the snatcher's dimension CS. The whole talk of a multiversal Hub city makes me think of having omega offer it as a mobile base.

[Zero Hex]

kalama, i'm not causing problems. They're just upset that i don't like them powerplaying their characters Zerohex, tip, you broke the damn game. AFter the castle collaspes you're fighting GANON, not ganondorf! and don't say 'what's the difference' because ganon is practically a demi-god, a 50 foot tall anthro boar with skin like steel and strength enough to crack a mountain. AND can only be harmed by a holy weapon. STOP CHANGING THE GAME SO YOU CAN GLORIFY YOUR CHARACTER.

@JonxlatheLion

oh, all of a sudden i'm the only one with a problem, after being teamed up on by three people about every little thing i do?

@JonxlatheLion

Guess what time it is? It's reply time! I would've let this go if you hadn't attacked me directly, I really would've out of respect for the GM's wishes and whatnot. But since you focused on me and I feel this is mostly a continuation of your previous obvious attempts to undermine or have my character killed, I decided to wait until everyone other than the people who've been arguing with you, and who I guess are tired of pointing out the endless flaws in your arguments, posted before I wrote out my reply. Feel free to interpret this as me taking this long to figure out a way to refute you or whatever if it makes you feel better. So, aside from the people who seem to be actively ignoring you right now, we have Rokku who says you "have a point" out of pity since he apparently cannot handle the thought of negativity in OOC discussion, bless his soul. And then we have Rawk, someone who I've previously disagreed with in regards to how Zelda lore and mechanics may or may not function, telling you that you're wrong. You have the actual GM telling you that you're indeed wrong as well and why. So, are they part of the conspiracy as well, organizing themselves to disagree with you? And then we have grandsword who turned up late after the argument was pretty much dropped. Moving on to your actual posts rather than people's reactions to it, "They're just upset that i don't like them powerplaying their characters". Do point out where such a thing has taken place, some manner of event that was obviously well beyond the scope of the given abilities in the CSes. Please, provide this evidence. Kalamadea himself has told you that what Ajax is doing falls entirely in line with his capabilities. Funny how someone who bitched at me for not reading CSes clearly hasn't read up on the character he wants killed. But yeah, you say I "broke" the game, and yet clearly the posting continues unabated. We must have different definitions of broken game. Speaking of funny things and not reading, you obviously not reading the IC or the OOC very thoroughly is hilarious. I mean, "altering how the game works" rather than sticking to the absolutely pointless mechanic of limiting the games to how they actually functioned in real life was approved by Kalamadea himself a while back. It's why Bee's character has the Master Sword, it was a funny scene. Community GMing was also approved by Kalamadea and it's why Bee took over the Ganondorf bossfight, making it a three tier fight so he could have a good narrative with his own character via sword duel, Rattlesnake Jack by having the cowboy hunt the pig, then Ajax by having a fistfight. As others have pointed out, not only would Ajax be stronger and tougher than the giant pig man going by his CS (did you read it?) but the game mechanics you suddenly hold in such high regard allow you to damage Ganon with weapons other than the Master Sword. And again, it's not like Ajax's fists work normally on defenses that would otherwise render them useless. Totally not in the CS at all. Nevermind the absolutely hilarious levels of nitpicking we've reached with "oh you should be fighting the pigman and not the super buff dude with magic punches who is represented as such in other games and who is actually hurting your character whose primary attribute is toughness". Honestly, I'm rather miffed that you accuse me of changing the game to glorify my character or others of powerplaying when this is clearly you lashing out for having Ajax try to kill Deadpool, nevermind that you completely ignored a sonic boom and shockwave so you could god-dodge via teleporter, you know, even though it was a short distance enough that the blast still should've affected him. Oh and lets not forget Deadpool somehow managed to do this to avoid a right straight (do you have any idea how fast a good right hand is?) completely guardless in front of what he assumed an ally, doing a goofy pose. But you know, fine, whatever, he has a teleporter. Oh but since you decided on calling me out directly, it's wonderful evidence that you're indeed out to try and make my experience in here harder. You know, more of it, to add to what I posted right here and that you've yet to answer to in any significant manner. I'm not stopping you, please, expose your side of the story, tell us how this very obvious anger you feel towards me isn't actually a thing and how you totally wouldn't like to see me gone or my character killed. I apologize to Kalamadea on some level for continuing the argument, but I've been nothing but civil in these discussions, I've pointed out that the instahitting is how the RP was operating and continued to operate on some level, I hadn't even attacked Jon directly until now despite having what I feel is ample evidence of his animosity towards me, but having talked about the importance of discussing things, I can't very well let what amounts to a direct attack on me go by unanswered, I hope you understand.

[grandsword]

...guys. Let's calm down, alright. Don't feed the bad moods. We've all been on this rp together for too long to ruin each other with a petty feud like a bunch of 4chan rejects. Please, let's attend to the rp, together under one banner, free of such foolish things.

[Zero Hex]

I'd love to. I've remained calm, waited till everyone who hadn't been arguing with him had posted, hadn't resorted to attacks despite having what I feel is ample evidence of animosity towards myself. But hey, if he's going to call me out specifically, and be obviously wrong about it to boot, well, why should I not reply? Am I not allowed to defend myself from blatantly false accusations?

[grandsword]

not saying you aren't. i just don't want this stupid feud ending with two wonderful players getting the boot. be the bigger man and end it before the GM decides he has to. let me reiterate. i don't wanna see this cause you guys to get kicked. So please, if not for yourselves, stop arguing for the rp's sake.

[rawkhawk64]

Is it safe to assume that we're GM'ing our own fights? Or nah?

[Prostagma]

Looks like it. I know I'm running Twinrova for myself and Shisa because the concept of constantly-bickering old ladies that gattai into a superwitch appeals to me.

[grandsword]

i so happen to have something i made a while back in case someone made that reference. ..GATTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI!

[Prostagma]

I always thought of Twinrova as more of a Double Zeta sort of thing to be honest.

[Zero Hex]

Is it safe to assume that we're GM'ing our own fights? Or nah?

@rawkhawk64

looks like a general consensus/first come first served/whoever feels like picking it up system, with whoever's most familiar with a setting getting control over the world as a general GM I think.

[grandsword]

Any input on the snatcher cs guys?

[rawkhawk64]

Well, I'll see if anyone wants to handle Rawk and Link's boss battle Bongo-Bongo (I assume it's him anyway). If not, I'll have a post up when I get off of work tomorrow.

[JonxlatheLion]

kalama, i'm not causing problems. They're just upset that i don't like them powerplaying their characters Zerohex, tip, you broke the damn game. AFter the castle collaspes you're fighting GANON, not ganondorf! and don't say 'what's the difference' because ganon is practically a demi-god, a 50 foot tall anthro boar with skin like steel and strength enough to crack a mountain. AND can only be harmed by a holy weapon. STOP CHANGING THE GAME SO YOU CAN GLORIFY YOUR CHARACTER.

@JonxlatheLion

oh, all of a sudden i'm the only one with a problem, after being teamed up on by three people about every little thing i do?

@JonxlatheLion

Guess what time it is? It's reply time! I would've let this go if you hadn't attacked me directly, I really would've out of respect for the GM's wishes and whatnot. But since you focused on me and I feel this is mostly a continuation of your previous obvious attempts to undermine or have my character killed, I decided to wait until everyone other than the people who've been arguing with you, and who I guess are tired of pointing out the endless flaws in your arguments, posted before I wrote out my reply. Feel free to interpret this as me taking this long to figure out a way to refute you or whatever if it makes you feel better. So, aside from the people who seem to be actively ignoring you right now, we have Rokku who says you "have a point" out of pity since he apparently cannot handle the thought of negativity in OOC discussion, bless his soul. And then we have Rawk, someone who I've previously disagreed with in regards to how Zelda lore and mechanics may or may not function, telling you that you're wrong. You have the actual GM telling you that you're indeed wrong as well and why. So, are they part of the conspiracy as well, organizing themselves to disagree with you? And then we have grandsword who turned up late after the argument was pretty much dropped. Moving on to your actual posts rather than people's reactions to it, "They're just upset that i don't like them powerplaying their characters". Do point out where such a thing has taken place, some manner of event that was obviously well beyond the scope of the given abilities in the CSes. Please, provide this evidence. Kalamadea himself has told you that what Ajax is doing falls entirely in line with his capabilities. Funny how someone who bitched at me for not reading CSes clearly hasn't read up on the character he wants killed. But yeah, you say I "broke" the game, and yet clearly the posting continues unabated. We must have different definitions of broken game. Speaking of funny things and not reading, you obviously not reading the IC or the OOC very thoroughly is hilarious. I mean, "altering how the game works" rather than sticking to the absolutely pointless mechanic of limiting the games to how they actually functioned in real life was approved by Kalamadea himself a while back. It's why Bee's character has the Master Sword, it was a funny scene. Community GMing was also approved by Kalamadea and it's why Bee took over the Ganondorf bossfight, making it a three tier fight so he could have a good narrative with his own character via sword duel, Rattlesnake Jack by having the cowboy hunt the pig, then Ajax by having a fistfight. As others have pointed out, not only would Ajax be stronger and tougher than the giant pig man going by his CS (did you read it?) but the game mechanics you suddenly hold in such high regard allow you to damage Ganon with weapons other than the Master Sword. And again, it's not like Ajax's fists work normally on defenses that would otherwise render them useless. Totally not in the CS at all. Nevermind the absolutely hilarious levels of nitpicking we've reached with "oh you should be fighting the pigman and not the super buff dude with magic punches who is represented as such in other games and who is actually hurting your character whose primary attribute is toughness". Honestly, I'm rather miffed that you accuse me of changing the game to glorify my character or others of powerplaying when this is clearly you lashing out for having Ajax try to kill Deadpool, nevermind that you completely ignored a sonic boom and shockwave so you could god-dodge via teleporter, you know, even though it was a short distance enough that the blast still should've affected him. Oh and lets not forget Deadpool somehow managed to do this to avoid a right straight (do you have any idea how fast a good right hand is?) completely guardless in front of what he assumed an ally, doing a goofy pose. But you know, fine, whatever, he has a teleporter. Oh but since you decided on calling me out directly, it's wonderful evidence that you're indeed out to try and make my experience in here harder. You know, more of it, to add to what I posted right here and that you've yet to answer to in any significant manner. I'm not stopping you, please, expose your side of the story, tell us how this very obvious anger you feel towards me isn't actually a thing and how you totally wouldn't like to see me gone or my character killed. I apologize to Kalamadea on some level for continuing the argument, but I've been nothing but civil in these discussions, I've pointed out that the instahitting is how the RP was operating and continued to operate on some level, I hadn't even attacked Jon directly until now despite having what I feel is ample evidence of his animosity towards me, but having talked about the importance of discussing things, I can't very well let what amounts to a direct attack on me go by unanswered, I hope you understand.

@Zero Hex

If I really wanted your character killed Maxwell would have slammed him into the ground by now. I don't think you understand that, yes, at one point I was angry. But now i'm not. Now i'm trying to figure out what on earth is going on here because we don't know where the piece is, we don't know who has it, and we don't know what we're gonna fight to get it.