Mahz's Dev Journal

[Mahz]

Hey, when I make quotes without the @QuoteMention, does it still send a notification? The green post creation confirmation bar seems to suggest it does.

@BBeast

I feel that the ability to make named quotes without cluttering the quoted's notification box would be useful, in any case.

@Shienvien

It's not supposed to send a notification unless there's a "@". #willfix Nice find.

The new tags system is amazing, makes a lot of things much easier. Here is another aesthetically troubling issue, on the subscriptions screen, the unsub button is very disturbing. If it could be made so that it appears once hovered over it would be better. First off it is red (which is the strongest color in wavelength to the eyes bla blah scientific stuff) and if you have lots of threads subbed to the amount of redness in there just distracts the eyes. (Or is it just me?)

@oakman

Good point. I'll change it to grey. I'll also add an "Are you sure?" pop-up to prevent accidental unsubs.

This is not red. - ed1c24, or RPG's closest colour picker option to red. Now this is red. - ff0000, or the hex for 255,0,0 in red-green-blue. Er... I was just bothered earlier by the fact that the colour picker's red is very I-accidentally-left-it-out-in-the-sunlight-for-a-few-weeks faded pink, but didn't bother to address it. Personally, I am not really bothered by the unsub buttons (and I am typically fairly colour-sensitive) - but I definitely would be by pop-in buttons. What slightly does bother me - now, this is a matter with this screen more than others (it is slightly better on other screens, but not good, and this screen simply doesn't go any more darker or more contrast) is the amount of near-white text on fairly light grey background (and in one instance, medium grey on light grey). Tag buttons? Near-white on light grey. Hiders? Near-white on light grey. Reply box? Near-white on light grey. The Unsub buttons mentioned above? White on bleached-red-pink. At least my eyes tell me that either the text should be pure black instead of white or the background should be significantly darker. It doesn't hurt (luckily - I literally am holding a hand in front of the screen to avoid seeing the gloriously neon tags of a certain RPG competitor whenever I go on that site...), nor is it hard to see, but it is a bit tiring combination in abundance, for the lack of better term.

@Shienvien

Yeah, the guild is clearly built by someone that's never looked at it on miscalibrated, color-shifted, or low-range-of-color screens. I need to put work into this, but it's far out of my specialty. I wish I could see the guild on your device. Another problem area is the Guild's global background which seems to clash with every color I come up with for other parts of the UI (though this is more of a mahz-can't-pick-colors problem). When I made it, I was color-picking colors off oldguild and it's supposed to be #2F2F2F. Too late now since I modified colors to work with it a little better. Some examples of color clashes on my screen: - Global BG vs Cheatsheet panel BG - Global BG vs category panel-header BG I will look into increasing contrast on the grey-on-grey action that seems to be unreadable for you (and possibly others). If you or anyone else could make an itemized list (or just screenshots) of the most offensive parts of the UI, I'll try to fix them. Maybe one day a web designer will join the guild, but those are even rarer than web developers. And I mean someone that can just edit this file directly for me.

The rating buttons popping is already one of the most annoying features on the site... (Can we have these greyed out and permanently visible? Please?)

@Shienvien

I agree that this is how it should work. I'd like the buttons to be desaturated into greyscale.

[Mahz]

@Mahz Hey Mahz, a account that got banned quoted me, thus sending off a notification. However the post was hidden and every time I try to access it gives me a white background with the text forbidden. The notification is stuck there, anyway of clearing it?

@duck55223

There's a "Clear All Notifications" button on the notifications page.

Small Bug report @Mahz It seems if you don't close the color box before saving and resuming other duties, the color field still hangs around.

The Small Bug

It seems you can also have multiple instances of this box overlay, not just on the last edited post.

@Aeonumbra

Thanks. It's a known bug, but a bit tough to fix at the moment. :( I made it into a formal issue though: https://github.com/danneu/guild/issues/42

[Mahz]

I was looking at Iwaku for the first time, was wondering if you could have something like their Jump-In RP section where it is basically collab writing, there is no need for character sheets or an elaborate ooc. Some may say we already have free RP, but Jump-In RPs can be detailed and have high standards as opposed to free rps' one liners to few sentences norm. Finally as the name suggests, a JUMP IN Rp section would always feature said RPs that are always open for anyone to join in.

@oakman

Funnily enough, the guild used to *only* have jump-in roleplays because that's the only roleplaying I ever did. I never even heard of character sheets or interest checks until early users requested a place to put them. On the forums I used to roleplay at, you'd just create a roleplay and hope someone cared. I think this could be implemented as some sort of toggle between: - Full: Roleplay is accepting no more players - Open (Jump In): If you want to join, just start posting - Open (Apply): If you want to join, post in the OOC tab to coordinate with the GMs Would something like that work? This could be displayed next to each roleplay in the list, and you should be able to filter on it. Also, added the tags that were requested so far:

[Ellri]

we like the idea of tag hierarchy. Its the logical solution to lots of tags. for such, we'd suggest a tags to go in both under Sci-fi and under fandom: Star Wars - Lightsabers, the Force and floppy-eared gungans RPs from that particular fandom tend to crop up on a regular basis. Same can probably be said for some anime fandoms, but we're not familiar enough with any of them to say for sure which pop up on a regular basis. to facilitate tag requests in a hopefully more orderly fashion @Mahz, we set up this topic for it.

[KeysOfKayes]

I still hold the opinion that having any specific Fandom tags, even Star Wars, is a slippery slope to Fandom tag overload.

[Ellri]

We sometimes agree, but some people will want to search for fandoms like that when they try to find RPs. For many, its a safe place to start. Its familiar to them. They should probably not be established as more than a few before the hierarchy system is put in.

[Mahz]

to facilitate tag requests in a hopefully more orderly fashion @Mahz, we set up this topic for it.

@Ellri

I'd like to create a new forum-type in the system that lets me create forums that work something like this: - Anybody can create a topic in the forum - Each topic can be upvoted - Every user in the system gets 3 votes. Maybe a vote weighs 3 points, 2 points, or 1 point to make priority more obvious. - People can post in the topic to discuss the thing being voted on - When I mark a topic as "Resolved", everyone that voted on the topic gets notified and their vote is returned to them At the very least, I'd like to create this type of forum for forum features and bugs. It'd also be nice to have this sort of forum for tags. 1. It'd let me work through the feature-list based on feature popularity 2. It would provide a dedicated place to discuss each feature idea, something that we really need. This topic is just too overloaded and sometimes overwhelming for me. Same with Jorick's stickied feature topic. For instance, I want a dedicated topic for dice and etherpad integration so I can specifically speak with the people who care about those features. It's too hard to try and interleave this topic with multiple conversations, especially to go back and find things that were said.

[Shienvien]

Maybe one day a web designer will join the guild, but those are even rarer than web developers. And I mean someone that can just edit this file directly for me.

@Mahz

The cascading style sheet? Yes, I know how to edit those directly ... I have onlywritten them directly in plain text format, in fact, and quite a few of them, too. (I am not a web developer or designer designer by any means, but I have CSS-styled quite a few UIs (CSSs are used in many more things than just web pages) and a couple of web pages - not really as a part of my job, but mostly for all kinds of side- and hobby-projects and things that have just ended up in my management.) It would require me to take some time to read the code and figure out what element is what, though, and like almost everyone knows, I've got quite bit of backlog in various things already, so it'd be probably be a while before I would be looking at it... Well, and reinventing the color scheme to something that would work with my entire range of monitors and possibly people with varying types of hue/shade discrimination deficiencies would both a bit of work and possibly be quite drastic.

Yeah, the guild is clearly built by someone that's never looked at it on miscalibrated, color-shifted, or low-range-of-color screens.

My this laptop's screen is light (in the lack of a more accurate term) due to its type, but it is otherwise calibrated. I checked on a PC screen and cell - both of which have black as black, not dark gray, and while the difference is significantly smaller, both my eyes and RGB still insist that it is slightly faded red rather than pure red (well, RGB obviously won't change regardless of screen; #ed1c24 is 237,28,36 in RGB as opposed to the 255,0,0 of pure red). It is mostly just a light screen making the difference especially glaring, and while the Guild's red might more or less pass as red of some description on screens that aren't as light, it cannot claim to be anything but faded-red pink on a light screen.

[Mahz]

I made an attempt to greyscale the ratings and remove the pop-in. Is it better or worse than before?

[Shienvien]

I made an attempt to greyscale the ratings and remove the pop-in.

Mahz

Definitely better for me.

[Rina]

<Snipped quote by Ellri> I'd like to create a new forum-type in the system that lets me create forums that work something like this: - Anybody can create a topic in the forum - Each topic can be upvoted - Every user in the system gets 3 votes. Maybe a vote weighs 3 points, 2 points, or 1 point to make priority more obvious. - People can post in the topic to discuss the thing being voted on - When I mark a topic as "Resolved", everyone that voted on the topic gets notified and their vote is returned to them At the very least, I'd like to create this type of forum for forum features and bugs. It'd also be nice to have this sort of forum for tags. 1. It'd let me work through the feature-list based on feature popularity 2. It would provide a dedicated place to discuss each feature idea, something that we really need. This topic is just too overloaded and sometimes overwhelming for me. Same with Jorick's stickied feature topic. For instance, I want a dedicated topic for dice and etherpad integration so I can specifically speak with the people who care about those features. It's too hard to try and interleave this topic with multiple conversations, especially to go back and find things that were said.

@Mahz

I love this idea! Not only would it help getting feedback from the guild but be also nice for us to know what exactly you are working on and what to expect in the future.

[Hank]

I made an attempt to greyscale the ratings and remove the pop-in. Is it better or worse than before?

@Mahz

Better.

[AlteredTundra]

I actually preferred the color version of the rating system. Then again, I never have been a fan of greyscale. So, that could just be me on that. >.>

@Altered Tundra I preferred the pop-up, color ratings as well, but if more people prefer how it is now then so be it.

[Syben]

I made an attempt to greyscale the ratings and remove the pop-in. Is it better or worse than before?

@Mahz

Much. Much better and less obtrusive, yet still prominent enough for those who want it.

[Ellri]

Looks nice either way. Gray does mesh better with everything else, though.

[Mahz]

Color loses another battle on the Guild. Killing spree!

[Ellri]

hmm... The goblin on our middle shoulder says "Is there a way to automatically grayscale all avatars?"...

[LegendBegins]

Color loses another battle on the Guild. Killing spree!

@Mahz

The double click issue on mobile appears to be resolved. I'll keep a look out for more errors on mobile. Are you planning on making a pure mobile version? The Guild is clean enough to make it not necessary, so it shouldn't be much of a priority.

[Mahz]

hmm... The goblin on our middle shoulder says "Is there a way to automatically grayscale all avatars?"...

@Ellri

http://www.roleplayerguild.com/me/edit#grayscale-avatars