[OOC] Massive Multiversal Crossover

[FujiwaraPhoenix]

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ah, i see. Though actually you were ~19,000 off since I only said a thousand in the first place ;p

@Flamelord

I wasn't off though. I said 20001 straight up. No edits, see? :<

[Raineh Daze]

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Nope, not quite. It's New Testament stuff, but in short the dead Clones still exist. Just not in a corporeal form, though.

@PKMNB0Y

Are they providing computational power or simply draining it, though?

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If the antimagic effect is engaged by cutting stuff, then the Dragonslayer is attacking both the magic and the physical at the same time. Thus, both items collapse simultaneously. It's like a door that's opened by two button presses at the same time.

@IncredibleBee

More like needing to press two buttons--but you can only reach one at a time. If the magic exists in the same place as the physical, you have to be able to cut the physical to cut the magic. If the enchantment puts the weapon beyond something Guts can cut through sheer force, the weapon's integrity won't be compromised.

[VitaVitaAR]

@IncredibleBee: I don't mean just that. A fair amount of characters wield unique magic weaponry that can't be replaced. That's a line that isn't allowed to be crossed, completely destroying a character's ability to fight is a problem.

If it can destroy those then it does need restraining in some form.

[FujiwaraPhoenix]

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Are they providing computational power or simply draining it, though?

@Raineh Daze

Well, let me state right now that that goes into spoiler territory in NT. Which is bad.

Also because all the translated original Index volumes went down. So. You know, Gotta read NT to understand.

[Flamelord]

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I wasn't off though. I said 20001 straight up. No edits, see? :<

@PKMNB0Y

Shhhh, details like that don't matter. *Swiftly eliminates PKMNBOY before he can protest.*

[Raineh Daze]

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Well, let me state right now that that goes into spoiler territory in NT. Which is bad.

Also because all the translated original Index volumes went down. So. You know, Gotta read NT to understand.

@PKMNB0Y

Fine, fine, I'll get back onto it soon. I got sidetracked by fanfiction after 16. :P

[FujiwaraPhoenix]

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Shhhh, details like that don't matter. *Swiftly eliminates PKMNBOY before he can protest.*

@Flamelord

Wait wha-
*ded*

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Fine, fine, I'll get back onto it soon. I got sidetracked by fanfiction after 16. :P

@Raineh Daze

Well, as I said, 16-22 went down and I can't seem to find backup copies anywhere. I know a friend of mine has the PDFs stored on his iPad, so I'll see if I can get a hold of those and send them your way if you don't ahve them saved. NT's still on Baka-Tsuki though, so.

[Raineh Daze]

I have one through NT 11 saved, it's fine.

[IncredibleBee]

@IncredibleBee: I don't mean just that. A fair amount of characters wield unique magic weaponry that can't be replaced. That's a line that isn't allowed to be crossed, completely destroying a character's ability to fight is a problem.

If it can destroy those then it does need restraining in some form.

@VitaVitaAR

Sundering weapons is unsurprisingly common in Berserk, considering the sheer size of Guts' sword. If a melee weapon were to survive a direct blow, it would need to either
A) Be made of some ridiculously strong, possibly otherworldly material. A Devil Arm from DMC would fit this description. So would Samurai Jack's sword, adamantium and vibranium weaponry, and similar.
B) Be just as ludicrously large as the Dragonslayer. The sword uses its extreme mass to attack, as such you'd require an equally large weapon to defend properly. A good example would be Cloud's buster sword; it's roughly the same size and estimated weight.

If you were blocking a blow with something other than a melee weapon, you're probably already screwed, because Guts is as melee as it gets.

Jury's still out on weapons whose endurance was increased via enchantment; I'm discussing that as we speak.

[VitaVitaAR]

In this case, I'm completely certain that all the irreplaceable magical weapons are safe.

Other weird weapons aren't actually magical.

[Laughing Matter]

I was about to respond when I saw the post below, then got distracted and almost forgot about it, so better late than never

@Laughing Matter: You have indeed been ghosting, and if I knew you meant that level of durability I would not have accepted your character.

I don't think there's many characters who can put that level of power into an attack, and they few that can don't do it for every basic attack. Very few require that amount of damage to hurt them. Maybe Saber if it's a totally mundane form of attack, but even then...

@VitaVitaAR

Fine then, consider that point dropped, I don't feel like getting into a long argument about this

Ghosting away every hit and treating your character as an unstoppable force of destruction is really not acceptable.

Except I haven't been doing that at all, he got caught off-guard by the Trandoshan not too long ago. But I guess if that happened, then I suppose editing that post would be reasonable, thinking about it now.

[IncredibleBee]

More like needing to press two buttons--but you can only reach one at a time. If the magic exists in the same place as the physical, you have to be able to cut the physical to cut the magic. If the enchantment puts the weapon beyond something Guts can cut through sheer force, the weapon's integrity won't be compromised.

@Raineh Daze

Yeah, but in that case it would need to boost the weapon's durability to unbelievable levels. Guts smashed corundum during one fight.

[Raineh Daze]

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Yeah, but in that case it would need to boost the weapon's durability to unbelievable levels. Guts smashed corundum during one fight.

@IncredibleBee

Corundum is brittle; it's like hitting diamond. It will break. What you need is something about as resilient to force/cutting as a seven-ish foot long iron blade. Given the forces magic weapons tend to be required to endure, it's not that unlikely.

[IncredibleBee]

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Corundum is brittle; it's like hitting diamond. It will break. What you need is something about as resilient to force/cutting as a seven-ish foot long iron blade. Given the forces magic weapons tend to be required to endure, it's not that unlikely.

@Raineh Daze

Well, Guts has also cut through multiple soldiers clad in steel armor, or several magic enhanced tigers, or several magic enhanced alligators, all in one swing. My point is, he can hit hard.

[Raineh Daze]

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Well, Guts has also cut through multiple soldiers clad in steel armor, or several magic enhanced tigers, or several magic enhanced alligators, all in one swing. My point is, he can hit hard.

@IncredibleBee

Even before the Dragonslayer, yes. I have read past the Band of the Hawk. :P

But when your lower bound for necessary enhanced durability is to match the sword swinging (if you're going to actively retaliate) you don't need a massive ability to absorb damage.

[Belwicket]

Is this still open?

[IncredibleBee]

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Even before the Dragonslayer, yes. I have read past the Band of the Hawk. :P

But when your lower bound for necessary enhanced durability is to match the sword swinging (if you're going to actively retaliate) you don't need a massive ability to absorb damage.

@Raineh Daze

But you'd need to absorb large amounts of force it you're going to block the Dragonslayer.

Actually, even if the sword didn't shatter, you'd need to be amazingly strong to keep your arms from giving out, and even if you did block, you'd get knocked around a decent distance.

[Raineh Daze]

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But you'd need to absorb large amounts of force it you're going to block the Dragonslayer.

Actually, even if the sword didn't shatter, you'd need to be amazingly strong to keep your arms from giving out, and even if you did block, you'd get knocked around a decent distance.

@IncredibleBee

Magic swords and unusual strength go hand in hand, number two could be considered a benefit (it gets you out of range without needing to absorb everything) if you're not able to push back. Either way, being forced back or sent flying is infinitely preferable to disarmed and cut in two, no?

[Flamelord]

On the plus side, I'm finally getting that Cinder/Blake fight, even if it's somewhat lopsided on account of Cinder blowing herself up like a minute ago.

[Psyga315]

Is this still open?

@Belwicket

IIRC, yes.