[OOC] The Blood Compact

[thewizardguy]

Wall of text initiated!

[akje]

Who is going to play the queen?

[Wraithblade6]

lol I love what wiz is doing.

[The Grey Dust]

Wall of text initiated!

@thewizardguy

a few problems.

1) Bedivere hardly visits his estates, and when he does he does not use the front door. There is a water feature which grants him access from the inside already, thus having him roll up to an estate would be a sign of an imposter of needing to use the front door.

2) Bedivere does not use a Limo. Should he need to formally to go from place to place, assumingly at night, he uses an elegant Carriage, horse-drawn and all. Given that should need to "make a scene" he would already have made plans for a carriage to be present about a quarter-mile into where he is to show up. A limo is unbefitting of a knight.

3) Bedivere does not smoke since the last few centuries (it fell out of fashion). He would have to request a smoke, at which he would fetch for an old pipe. Let alone having a cigar as toxic as the one described. The cigars of course are for business guests, and as such...

4) Bedivere does not "request wine." But rather he would request particular humans, by referring to them as one would a query-based dating engine. Even in throwing a feast, he would not throw one for humans, lest they were to be the main course after all.

5) Bedivere doesn't actually employ the people in the estate, the Collector does who in turn is employed/puppeted by Bedivere. Thus the staff would be confused at the man walking up unless instead of Bedivere, it was the Collector to which 1-4 would be a moot point. Bedivere only comes at night from the inside of the mansion as somewhat of a Boogeyman. To which only the London Estate where some vampire fledgings are known to conduct business on behalf of Bedivere would actually know who Bedivere is. The Welsh Estate is the entrance to Camelot, and as such no staff is actually there as it is just a historic landmark which is being preserved on behalf of the state. Maybe one of the two Scottish Estates.

[akje]

Martin and Void are not anywhere near Camelot.
Martin wished he knew where Camelot was. Or even knew for sure it exists.
They are standing in front of a lovely bed and breakfast cottage in the middle of nowhere.

[Wraithblade6]

Well Grey, Gabriel probably doesn't know everything about Bedivere. Wiz surely doesn't unless you tell him OC. I think it was a good effort to make a hilarious post. Perhaps, if it is messing with your plans, you could say it happened a few days prior, or you could ask wiz to make a couple specific edits to make it work. The staff are supposed to be confused, cuz this Bedivere is supposed to be very odd.

[Wraithblade6]

I told Wiz to make that post. I had no idea Grey had so much history set up so specifically. Grey wants Wiz's post modified to reflect how he had established things in Britain. Wiz has to edit. it's my fault. I'm sorry.

[The Grey Dust]

The Collector has 7 Estates total. In order of Antiquity.

Welsh (conceals Camelot's true location, preserved as a historic site by the state, no staff)
London (Most visited by Bedivere/The Collector's main stay. Used for vampiric business, staff associates Bedivere as some important business partner)
Yorkshire (Secondary estate for the Collector, staff does not see Bedivere.)
Highland Scotland (Countryside estate for the Collector, staff does not see Bedivere.)
Lower Scotland (Storage site estate for sorting for the Collector, staff does not see Bedivere.)
North Ireland (Outpost estate for the Collector, hardly visited, rarely used staff does not see Bedivere.)
Isle of Man (Used exclusively by the Collector for seaside vacations. Used for his yachts and what not.)

Water Fonts in every estate underneath the basements, plenty of water features. Door is locked from the other side.

[Wraithblade6]

So it seems the only location that Bedivere resides is Camelot which I believe is underneath the Welsh estate, correct? Otherwise, he appears in London in the guise of a "business contact" to meet with the old man stand-in "collector." Additionally, he doesn't use the front door? If he were to travel outdoors, it would be at night only and by carriage. Yes? Any of the other estates never see Bedivere and would not recognize him.

So if Wiz wanted to pull this wine-stealing bit, he would have to have Gabriel appear in Camelot... I really think that is what Grey is saying. The question is, can Gabriel even do that? Also, with the amount of holy shit in Camelot, would Gabriel not be fried to a crisp? Is there any entrance to Camelot other than the water entrance? Grey, you should tell people about the water-only entrance.

[thewizardguy]

@The Grey Dust

The fact that it's opposite to what Bedhivere would normally ever do is kind of the POINT. I wasn't attempting to imitate Bedhivere in any realistic manner, I was showing Gabriel having fun with his image.

However, I must admit I did not realize that the people in such a location would not work for Bedhivere.

As such, they now do.

In fact, they're completely convinced they've worked for Bedhivere the whole time, and will cease realizing this the moment Gabe leaves the estate.

Why?

Because Gabriel wants them to.

[The Grey Dust]

@The Grey Dust

The fact that it's opposite to what Bedhivere would normally ever do is kind of the POINT. I wasn't attempting to imitate Bedhivere in any realistic manner, I was showing Gabriel having fun with his image.

However, I must admit I did not realize that the people in such a location would not work for Bedhivere.

As such, they now do.

In fact, they're completely convinced they've worked for Bedhivere the whole time, and will cease realizing this the moment Gabe leaves the estate.

Why?

Because Gabriel wants them to.

@thewizardguy

I suppose. But what purpose does this make then? You simply then convince the people, rather than anyone else.

The only person Gabe is truly fooling is himself in thinking that this would amount to anything given that if it is merely a status of the mind and not actual belief, then he can be anyone he wants. He can be the Queen of England if he convinces everyone he is. He can be Mithias if he does the same, or Magnus, or Kami, or Martin. But to what purpose does this have?

I suppose nothing is stopping Gabe from making a video and pretending to be Kami/some Solider Superior and sending out a broadcast to completely defame the Solider/Purge. Or just control an entire city and make it a puppet for himself. Since of course, that's his character and that's what he does. To which there's really nothing important enough to illicit a response from anyone where Gabe is at since he can freely control them at will. And since the free-will of the NPC's are effectively taken there's nothing worth mentioning on my end given that control over the estate now rests with Gabriel.

[Wraithblade6]

Gabes power cant work through a machine. A video camera simply records images. If Gabe isn't present to alter the mind of the viewer, then the viewer sees the truth through the camera. You're a smart guy. I know this was obvious to you.

But in either case, Dust is upset enough to leave the rp over this. He just is. I need you two to work this out.

Dust, we need to know what you want changed. Gabriel has the capacity to convince anyone around him of anything, so he can technically pull off what he did. I suppose you could claim that there was nobody there at the estate or that they wouldn't know where to begin to find wine or some such. That would require edits. If you're simply upset with the whole idea, just say so. We are trying to work with you here man.

[Shikaru]

How's getting to the meetinG area work? Magnus can't teleport through water. Does the invitation have directions?

[Wraithblade6]

Carfax castle is not in Camelot.

[The Grey Dust]

Carfax is on the river Thames, just few miles outside of London.
It should be place Vampires know because it used to belong to Dracula.

I also don't care anymore at this point what happens. Change nothing if you desire, change whatever you feel is needed.
It's not like it matters in the grand scheme of plot in the long run.

It's not worth the trouble frankly at this point to deal with it.

[Shikaru]

@The Grey Dust Oh...I feel slightly dumber now.

[The Grey Dust]

@The Grey Dust Oh...I feel slightly dumber now.

@Shikaru

Don't worry it is quite confusing X3

[thewizardguy]

Well, if it causes so much of a ruckus, I'll simply remove my post. It was intended to be a joke, and there was no intent to cause any harm to the story or those participating in it.

[The Grey Dust]

Well, if it causes so much of a ruckus, I'll simply remove my post. It was intended to be a joke, and there was no intent to cause any harm to the story or those participating in it.

@thewizardguy

We require to chat. Have a talk with wraith of things discussed.

[Shikaru]

I'll get a post up in a few hours, been busy. Didn't dissapear again.